AMSOIL quality as of April 2016

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Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
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I'm sure you took the comment for what it was, a joke. I think the Corolla is sexy

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Sexy like Russian vowmen in evening vear!
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Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
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I'm sure you took the comment for what it was, a joke. I think the Corolla is sexy

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Sexy like Russian vowmen in evening vear!
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I like Russian women too. LOL

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Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: MCompact
Originally Posted By: HemiHawk

EDIT: This just in, the $40,000 Camaro is better than the $20,000 Corolla.


I'm betting that a member of the Cult of Reliable and Excruciatingly Dull Appliances will chime in to vehemently disagree...


"I disagree!" Lol


I'm sure you took the comment for what it was, a joke. I think the Corolla is sexy


Absolutely HemiHawk!
 
The obvious question is....do the vehicle manufacturers know what they are talking about when they specify a 30mg limit on the TEOST 33C test. If the answer is yes, then the $4/quart oil is just fine. For those who feel it isn't, there's a $12/quart oil available.
 
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Originally Posted By: HKPolice
The ironic thing about this ad is that calcium additives are known to cause low speed preignition in modern turbo direct injected engines and the Amsoil SS line has over 3500ppm of calcium compared to ~2000 for most other oils.


Only if the calcium component has high volatility.

Modern calcium sulfonates and salicylates have low volatility.

BTW, this goes goes any metallic component that has the potential to produce ash, even ZDDP and MoDTC.


Can the calcium sulfonates and salicylates you mention replace calcium carbonate as a detergent?
LSPI - A KNOCK ON THE NEWEST ENGINES
'A series of papers presented at the JSAE/SAE Powertrains, Fuels and Lubricants International Meeting in Kyoto, Japan in September, indicated that LSPI arises from interactions between lubricants, fuels and engine design/operation. With regard to lubricants, there’s one likely culprit: the CaCO3(calcium carbonate) in the detergent additive.

“We have to find an alternative to CaCO3,” said Yasuo Moriyoshi, professor of mechanical engineering at Japan’s Chiba University. Moriyoshi was co-author of a paper on the calcium contribution to LSPI.'
 
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Originally Posted By: HKPolice
The ironic thing about this ad is that calcium additives are known to cause low speed preignition in modern turbo direct injected engines and the Amsoil SS line has over 3500ppm of calcium compared to ~2000 for most other oils.


Only if the calcium component has high volatility.

Modern calcium sulfonates and salicylates have low volatility.

BTW, this goes goes any metallic component that has the potential to produce ash, even ZDDP and MoDTC.


Can the calcium sulfonates and salicylates you mention replace calcium carbonate as a detergent?
LSPI - A KNOCK ON THE NEWEST ENGINES
'A series of papers presented at the JSAE/SAE Powertrains, Fuels and Lubricants International Meeting in Kyoto, Japan in September, indicated that LSPI arises from interactions between lubricants, fuels and engine design/operation. With regard to lubricants, there’s one likely culprit: the CaCO3(calcium carbonate) in the detergent additive.

“We have to find an alternative to CaCO3,” said Yasuo Moriyoshi, professor of mechanical engineering at Japan’s Chiba University. Moriyoshi was co-author of a paper on the calcium contribution to LSPI.'


Also...

https://www.oronite.com/products/lspi.asp
Shedding Light on Low Speed Pre-Ignition (LSPI)

http://papers.sae.org/2014-32-0092/
A Study on the Effect of a Calcium-Based Engine Oil Additive on Abnormal SI Engine Combustion
Paper #:
2014-32-0092
Published:
2014-11-11
 
Originally Posted By: Jetronic
wasn't the teost test voted "stupidest test you can run on an oil" for 5 years running?


I don't think so, it's part of ILSAC GF-5.
It's not like the "4 ball wear test" that's intended for something other than motor oil.
 
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Jetronic
wasn't the teost test voted "stupidest test you can run on an oil" for 5 years running?


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I was racking my brain trying to remember where i read that... Still a fluid topic in the lubrication world.
 
Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Jetronic
wasn't the teost test voted "stupidest test you can run on an oil" for 5 years running?


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I was racking my brain trying to remember where i read that... Still a fluid topic in the lubrication world.

Wrecking and not racking
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Originally Posted By: deven
Originally Posted By: wemay
I was racking my brain trying to remember where i read that... Still a fluid topic in the lubrication world.

Wrecking and not racking
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You both sure about that?

What about "wrack"?
 
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: deven
Originally Posted By: wemay
I was racking my brain trying to remember where i read that... Still a fluid topic in the lubrication world.

Wrecking and not racking
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You both sure about that?

What about "wrack"?

How about "wrap"?
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Originally Posted By: deven
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: deven
Originally Posted By: wemay
I was racking my brain trying to remember where i read that... Still a fluid topic in the lubrication world.

Wrecking and not racking
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You both sure about that?

What about "wrack"?

How about "wrap"?
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Apparently all are correct: Wreck, Wrack or Rack?
 
I wanna see one of these tests conducted by a non-Amsoil sponsored site and test lab. I'm sure it's great oil, but all oil companies are going to boast that theirs is the best regardless of tests. It's all about sales, not scientific proof!
 
Originally Posted By: jongies3
I wanna see one of these tests conducted by a non-Amsoil sponsored site and test lab. I'm sure it's great oil, but all oil companies are going to boast that theirs is the best regardless of tests. It's all about sales, not scientific proof!


SWRI is typically used by Amsoil for testing. The test results in question were conduced by "independent, third-party testing".
 
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