Added Lubegard Bio-tech; testing MPG

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From an average of 37.2 MPG to 46.3 MPG with Lubegard Bio-tech and Lubegard Red, an increase of almost 25% is very hard to believe, specially with winter gas in the last few tanks.

I'm tempting to try Lubegard Bio-tech in the E430 with sump capacity of 8.5 qts, according to Lubegard the dosage is 3 oz per quart so that I need 2 15oz bottles or 1 32oz bottle to use in other cars.
 
I will be adding Bio Tech Engine Protectant today to my 88 E-150. Next OCI my Aerostar will be treated with zMax, that is the only vehicle of my fleet that uses any oil, and will be a good test platform for the product. I've use Bio Tech Engine Protectant in the past and was very pleased with it. If I can get 1/4 of panthermikes gains I'll be a happy camper.
 
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
... an increase of almost 25% is very hard to believe, specially with winter gas in the last few tanks.



+1

5% is very good. When the fuel mileage went up 3mpg on my motorcycle, I was very happy: From 50 to 53mpg. That is 6% improvement.
 
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
From an average of 37.2 MPG to 46.3 MPG with Lubegard Bio-tech and Lubegard Red, an increase of almost 25% is very hard to believe, specially with winter gas in the last few tanks.

I'm tempting to try Lubegard Bio-tech in the E430 with sump capacity of 8.5 qts, according to Lubegard the dosage is 3 oz per quart so that I need 2 15oz bottles or 1 32oz bottle to use in other cars.


Yes, it is hard to believe, which is why I said more data is needed. I'm sure it will come down a bit. The one 52.6mpg tank is what brought it so far up. Remember, I tracked my last OCI for 5,000 miles and so far only 1,250 for this one. Many more fillups to go. So please, DO NOT think this is definitive or the final results. I have 3,750 more miles to go, this was merely an update.

BTW, it's a 16.5% improvement(37.2 vs. 44.5). To be honest, I'll be happy if it ends up being an average of 39mpg. That would pay for the Biotech alone!
 
My error, I should compare 37.2MPG vs. 44.5MPG not 37.MPG vs. 46.3 MPG. But the new 37.2MPG vs. old 44.5MPG is an 19.5% improvement.

I agree, if you can get 4-5% MPG improvement over an OCI of 5-6k miles, that would pay for the Bio-tech.
 
I haven't seen a 32 ounce bottle only 10 and 15 ounce bottles. How much are the 32 ounce bottles?

Thanks
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I haven't seen a 32 ounce bottle only 10 and 15 ounce bottles. How much are the 32 ounce bottles?

Thanks


+1, I've only seen the 10/15's also.
 
Thanks, I grabbed some 15 ounce bottles on Amazon for under $9.48/bottle plus shipping. That was for five bottles. I'll have to do the math, I like the idea of qt bottles.
 
These retailers carry Lubegard, if you can ask them to order the quart bottle at retail price plus tax, it should be more cost effective than $9.48/15-oz bottles plus shipping.

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NAPA
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NAPA wanted $16 for the 15 ounce bottles, none of the other stores are anywhere to be found in my area. AAP and Auto Zone don't carry it and couldn't get it, or didn't want to be bothered. Thanks for the info though! I guess I could try PB next time I need some, but I have a feeling they are going to be in the $13-$15 price range.
 
Ordering from Lubegard is the best deal I've seen, thanks HTSS.

I won't update on MPG for awhile so I can get a more accurate average. I'm loving the way the car is running though.
 
I had been watching this silently but I can't keep my mouth shut any more. After re-reading my own reply, I seem to have come lot stronger than needed. I have nothing against PantherMike and he has NOT made any such claims! So please read this reply without getting offended.
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How in the world *anything* that is added to engine oil can increase fuel economy by 25%? Does *anybody* seriously believe that 25% of engine power is used to overcome the engine friction? Even the drive train losses as measured on chassis dyno are quite less than that! Won't you think that engine frictional losses would be less than the drive train losses? Math does not add up.

Logically, no magic elixir in engine oil is going to give you 25% more fuel economy. There is very very small chance that some magic elixir in your fuel might increase the fuel economy by 25% but never in your oil.

You have to look for other factors or possible errors in measurement to account for 25% improvement in fuel economy.
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For example, if Lubegard is helping the car to shift in to overdrive sooner, that could improve the fuel economy. You also have to realize there had been quite a variation in the fuel economy before the Lubegard application and after the application.

- Vikas
 
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How in the world *anything* that is added to engine oil can increase fuel economy by 25%? Does *anybody* seriously believe that 25% of engine power is used to overcome the engine friction?

How about if his compression rings were sticking badly and the additive freed them up, increasing compression dramatically? I am speaking theoretically. I don't know about his engine.
 
Just remember that 25% was an incorrect calculation, it was actually 19.5%. In light of that, my mpg average has dropped more, as I suspected. It's still above the previous OCI mpg, but much more realistic. I will share this data after some more miles are logged.
 
panther, i too have seen the same benefits in all my vehicles..i love lubegard, zmax the only additives added to my oil..its redline i know i don't need this but zmax is a must for metal and lubegard just enhances whats already in motor oil..my opinion no scientific proof..just the way my vehicles perform
 
Originally Posted By: panthermike
Just remember that 25% was an incorrect calculation, it was actually 19.5%. In light of that, my mpg average has dropped more, as I suspected. It's still above the previous OCI mpg, but much more realistic. I will share this data after some more miles are logged.


Don't sweat it panthermike, tracking mpg takes time, sometimes months to get a good baseline. The seasons, weather, temperature, driving conditions, etc and the fuel itself can factor in. How is the vehicle treated with the Biotech Engine Protectant running? Easier starting, quieter, smoother idle? How does it compare to other additives you might have tried?

Just as a side note, I gassed up my van yesterday, and can put anywhere from $1 to $4 or a bit more gas after the pump clicks off. it varies from pump to pump and station to station. That would certainly skew an mpg report. Since I don't have a high-tech EVAP emissions system sometimes I really top it off since I'm to lazy to walk back inside and get change.
 
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