I'm trying to think of which manufacturers are using an active OLM. Active meaning that a computer is keeping track of certain variables; revs, temp., etc. The only ones I can think of are GM, BMW, Mercedes, and possibly Honda. Are there any I'm overlooking? I think this technology is great, I wish the industry as a whole would start using active OLM systems. As much as I dislike my girlfriends Monte Carlo, I love the fact that it has an OLM.
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VW/Audi have the capability to but are just usually programmed for a fixed mileage interval.
I too think this is great technology (when it works). As long as those developing it use good principles and are not too optimistic. GM just did a recall to recalibrate the OLMs on certain vehicles due to premature wear.
Ford does on the F150 - 5.0 and Ecoboost.
Originally Posted By: RamFan
I'm trying to think of which manufacturers are using an active OLM. Active meaning that a computer is keeping track of certain variables; revs, temp., etc. The only ones I can think of are GM, BMW, Mercedes, and possibly Honda. Are there any I'm overlooking? I think this technology is great, I wish the industry as a whole would start using active OLM systems. As much as I dislike my girlfriends Monte Carlo, I love the fact that it has an OLM.
GM's version is well proven around here on V8's. We get engines that outlast their truck just by following it. Since 2004.
AFAIK the only engines that they have recalibrated are DI which seems a bit problematic and undeveloped but is getting much better fast.
I'm trying to think of which manufacturers are using an active OLM. Active meaning that a computer is keeping track of certain variables; revs, temp., etc. The only ones I can think of are GM, BMW, Mercedes, and possibly Honda. Are there any I'm overlooking? I think this technology is great, I wish the industry as a whole would start using active OLM systems. As much as I dislike my girlfriends Monte Carlo, I love the fact that it has an OLM.
GM's version is well proven around here on V8's. We get engines that outlast their truck just by following it. Since 2004.
AFAIK the only engines that they have recalibrated are DI which seems a bit problematic and undeveloped but is getting much better fast.
Hopefully my Acura MDX 07 OLM is good.
The prior owner used anywhere from 7k-9.5k as OCI on dealer fill based on OLM. I assume dino for $40 oil changes!
It seems to be every 5k in the winter for me and extends to about 7-8k in the summer. It definitely knows warm up times and idling(excess) but I guess computer knows how quickly it warms or runs in cold conditions.
The prior owner used anywhere from 7k-9.5k as OCI on dealer fill based on OLM. I assume dino for $40 oil changes!
It seems to be every 5k in the winter for me and extends to about 7-8k in the summer. It definitely knows warm up times and idling(excess) but I guess computer knows how quickly it warms or runs in cold conditions.
Honda's Maintenance Minder (MM) is an "active" system, like GM's OLM. The previous owner of our Honda followed it (and used conventional) and the engine runs great, and is very clean inside (I have posted pictures previously).
The 2011 Toyota Camry I had did have a maintenance due light, but it was simply a mileage counter; it goes off every 5,000 miles because there is a service due every 5,000 miles on Toyotas (tire rotation). My co-worker owns a 2011 Prius and a 2012 Prius, and they're the same way. I wouldn't say that Toyota's system is "active", at least not on some of their most popular models.
Chrysler has been using an active system recently as well, though I don't know much about it.
The 2011 Toyota Camry I had did have a maintenance due light, but it was simply a mileage counter; it goes off every 5,000 miles because there is a service due every 5,000 miles on Toyotas (tire rotation). My co-worker owns a 2011 Prius and a 2012 Prius, and they're the same way. I wouldn't say that Toyota's system is "active", at least not on some of their most popular models.
Chrysler has been using an active system recently as well, though I don't know much about it.
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Originally Posted By: RamFan
The only ones I can think of are GM, BMW, Mercedes, and possibly Honda.
Honda and Toyota both use what you call "active" oil-life monitors.
I don't think Toyota does, my roommate has a 2010 Camry and hers is simply a mileage counter.
Originally Posted By: RamFan
The only ones I can think of are GM, BMW, Mercedes, and possibly Honda.
Honda and Toyota both use what you call "active" oil-life monitors.
I don't think Toyota does, my roommate has a 2010 Camry and hers is simply a mileage counter.
Originally Posted By: RamFan
Interesting, I thought Chrysler was just using a mileage counter. Do you happen to have any literature?
This is from my 2008 Jeep's manual:
Change Oil Message
Your vehicle is equipped with an engine oil change
indicator system. The “Change Oil” message will flash in
the instrument cluster odometer for approximately 12
seconds after a single chime has sounded to indicate the
next scheduled oil change interval. The engine oil change
indicator system is duty cycle based, which means the
engine oil change interval may fluctuate dependent upon
your personal driving style. Unless reset, this message
will continue to display each time you turn the ignition
switch to the ON/RUN position. To turn off the message
temporarily, press and release the Trip Odometer button
on the instrument cluster. To reset the oil change indicator
system (after performing the scheduled maintenance)
refer to the following procedure.
Interesting, I thought Chrysler was just using a mileage counter. Do you happen to have any literature?
This is from my 2008 Jeep's manual:
Change Oil Message
Your vehicle is equipped with an engine oil change
indicator system. The “Change Oil” message will flash in
the instrument cluster odometer for approximately 12
seconds after a single chime has sounded to indicate the
next scheduled oil change interval. The engine oil change
indicator system is duty cycle based, which means the
engine oil change interval may fluctuate dependent upon
your personal driving style. Unless reset, this message
will continue to display each time you turn the ignition
switch to the ON/RUN position. To turn off the message
temporarily, press and release the Trip Odometer button
on the instrument cluster. To reset the oil change indicator
system (after performing the scheduled maintenance)
refer to the following procedure.
Originally Posted By: otis24
I too think this is great technology (when it works). As long as those developing it use good principles and are not too optimistic. GM just did a recall to recalibrate the OLMs on certain vehicles due to premature wear.
The OLM on my Cruze is optimistic. It'll let me run 10-11k miles before telling me to change the oil. UOA's have shown that full syn 5w-30 is shot by 9000 miles, or about 15-10% on the OLM. I've heard rumor that GM recalibrated the OLM in the 2013 Cruze to be more pessimistic.
I too think this is great technology (when it works). As long as those developing it use good principles and are not too optimistic. GM just did a recall to recalibrate the OLMs on certain vehicles due to premature wear.
The OLM on my Cruze is optimistic. It'll let me run 10-11k miles before telling me to change the oil. UOA's have shown that full syn 5w-30 is shot by 9000 miles, or about 15-10% on the OLM. I've heard rumor that GM recalibrated the OLM in the 2013 Cruze to be more pessimistic.
Originally Posted By: Zhukov
As several people have mentioned, Ford started using their "Intelligent Oil Life Monitor"
FORD IOLM
It even mentions specifically that there is no need for synthetic oil as long as it's an approved oil.
Yep. my 3.7 F150 has it. I think everything but the bottom of the line Fiesta has it. If I ever get my UOA back, we'll see how close it tracks. I notice that it seems not to like a parked car, even moreso than my short trips. When I go to the airport and leave for a trip for a few days, it dings me a couple of points when I get back. (of course maybe its just sulking).
As several people have mentioned, Ford started using their "Intelligent Oil Life Monitor"
FORD IOLM
It even mentions specifically that there is no need for synthetic oil as long as it's an approved oil.
Yep. my 3.7 F150 has it. I think everything but the bottom of the line Fiesta has it. If I ever get my UOA back, we'll see how close it tracks. I notice that it seems not to like a parked car, even moreso than my short trips. When I go to the airport and leave for a trip for a few days, it dings me a couple of points when I get back. (of course maybe its just sulking).
Originally Posted By: sciphi
Originally Posted By: otis24
I too think this is great technology (when it works). As long as those developing it use good principles and are not too optimistic. GM just did a recall to recalibrate the OLMs on certain vehicles due to premature wear.
The OLM on my Cruze is optimistic. It'll let me run 10-11k miles before telling me to change the oil. UOA's have shown that full syn 5w-30 is shot by 9000 miles, or about 15-10% on the OLM. I've heard rumor that GM recalibrated the OLM in the 2013 Cruze to be more pessimistic.
I am surprised with the oil life from OLM given it is a turbo car. They are far more sensitive to neglect in the oil aspect than non-turbo cars for sure.
Originally Posted By: otis24
I too think this is great technology (when it works). As long as those developing it use good principles and are not too optimistic. GM just did a recall to recalibrate the OLMs on certain vehicles due to premature wear.
The OLM on my Cruze is optimistic. It'll let me run 10-11k miles before telling me to change the oil. UOA's have shown that full syn 5w-30 is shot by 9000 miles, or about 15-10% on the OLM. I've heard rumor that GM recalibrated the OLM in the 2013 Cruze to be more pessimistic.
I am surprised with the oil life from OLM given it is a turbo car. They are far more sensitive to neglect in the oil aspect than non-turbo cars for sure.
There are a few Fords that don't have the IOLM. My manual has mileage based OCI for the 6.2, I believe. That is why I tried not to make a blanket statement about Fords.
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