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Van has just two seats and no windows on the sides. Wagon seats 5 to 15 people with windows all around.
Van has just two seats and no windows on the sides. Wagon seats 5 to 15 people with windows all around.
Must be a "shortage" of those keys. The H92 PATS key you mentioned has been out of stock from my locksmith suppliers for months. Been using generic keys and xhorse chips.Stratec makes those for Ford. Their number is 597638. FWIW through Rotunda those keys went up substantially about a year ago. The 164-R8040 jewel keys went up 400% in cost a few months ago and we lost any bulk order discount.
We are limited to ordering 5 at a time from Rotunda, and that is at about 5 times what we paid this time last year. Fortunately I ordered a ton last year when they were running a special for stock orders.Must be a "shortage" of those keys. The H92 PATS key you mentioned has been out of stock from my locksmith suppliers for months. Been using generic keys and xhorse chips.
So whats the part number you look them up by? None of the dealers I called could do anything with this number,Must be a "shortage" of those keys. The H92 PATS key you mentioned has been out of stock from my locksmith suppliers for months. Been using generic keys and xhorse chips.
That 011-R0223 is the ford number. BDcardinal can correct me if I am wrong but IIRC Ford doesnt have keys in the parts catalog, they come from the tool & equipment program vs parts. Most keys start 164 so its possible the parts guys didnt recognize it (not a common key anymore) In the locksmith world I call that an H75 key. The H92 key is a PATS key that BDcardinal said jumped big in price and has been backordered from strattec. I dont stock the H75 in the ford head I stock it in a metal head but will order the Ford head for anyone that wants. I do the metal head for 15 bucks cut if I have a key to duplicate, more if I have to look up a key code because Ford charges me to buy a key code and there is a lot of paperwork to do it.So whats the part number you look them up by? None of the dealers I called could do anything with this number,
LMC Truck sells the blanks.Ace has those FORD logo keys?
Now that was a useful feature. Too bad we can’t have that anymore.And if you had two Ford vehicles which used the same keyway, you could cut one side for one vehicle and the other side for the other one.
Or EbayDealers don't want to deal with keys. If you need keys often you need a locksmith friend.
Do sellers on eBay cut them ? Might be a bit of a hassle if it needs re-cut and re-cut...Or Ebay
That is the Rotunda number. For the older vehicles that only had one key option, they are not in the catalog. They started putting them in when there were 4+ key options for a vehicle and it was like throwing a dart figuring out the correct ones based on the number of buttons and MHz they used. The ones on limited order are the jewel 164-R8040 keys. We don't use the H75 etc. numbers as that counts against our loyalty percentage.That 011-R0223 is the ford number. BDcardinal can correct me if I am wrong but IIRC Ford doesnt have keys in the parts catalog, they come from the tool & equipment program vs parts. Most keys start 164 so its possible the parts guys didnt recognize it (not a common key anymore) In the locksmith world I call that an H75 key. The H92 key is a PATS key that BDcardinal said jumped big in price and has been backordered from strattec. I dont stock the H75 in the ford head I stock it in a metal head but will order the Ford head for anyone that wants. I do the metal head for 15 bucks cut if I have a key to duplicate, more if I have to look up a key code because Ford charges me to buy a key code and there is a lot of paperwork to do it.
When America needs a better ideaAnd if you had two Ford vehicles which used the same keyway, you could cut one side for one vehicle and the other side for the other one.
Now that was a useful feature. Too bad we can’t have that anymore.
At least on GM you could start then take the keys out.
Well that's why he bought the key on eBay.I really don't think anyone buying a 2003 Econoline cares if the key is OE or not. I love this site!
Just for Ford, there's Forscan which is a free program that will also let you remove and add keys to Ford cars so you don't need to go to the dealer to program additional keys.Don’t lose your keys and if you buy a vehicle with one set of keys negotiate the cost of replacement into price. I dropped car price by $250 with used private seller based on one key.
I had a Chrysler that did the same thing, might have been stolen in the past before I bought it. You could take the key out and the car was still running. Handy if you wanted the a/c or heat to run a bit, you could take the key out and then lock the doors and still get back in. No key fob back in those days.That's not an intentional feature.
I really don't think anyone buying a 2003 Econoline cares if the key is OE or not. I love this site!
Edmunds list these as being worth about $3500ish.It's actually the wagon version and a pretty nice one at that, so I think some folks will. I do.
Edmunds list these as being worth about $3500ish.