5w20...It works

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A thinner oil will wash out impurities better than a thicker oil. It will also float better to places where the oil flow is smaller. You have all heard Frank's comment about "A clean engine being a healthy engine". Well, if the engine gets cleaner with a 20weight oil, there really should be no mystery about it. The thinner oil seems(see used oil analysis here at BITOG)to keep your engines cleaner and because of this it also performs better.
 
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Originally posted by 427Z06:
My respect for you just went up a couple notches. Happy motoring.
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We have several Crown Vics in our family and thats all we use even in jungle heat like Miami.
 
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Originally posted by Islandvic:
Bryan,

What OCI are you going to run in the Mitsu with the MC?

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Although regular interval is 7500 miles I am going with an easy round 5k mile oci since I will be doing so with my new Toyota as well. If I do a uao and it shows plenty of life at 5k I may extend back to the 7500 plus this car has been safely doing.
 
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Originally posted by Winston:
Bryan,

Does your Mitsu have a temp limitation for the 5W20 oil? Just curious.


On another topic. I thought that an API SJ 5W30 is about the same as an SM 5W20. No?


100 degrees f is the limit with SL 5w20.. It will be hotter than that occasionally. Let's see what this SM 5w20 can do.
 
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Originally posted by JohnBrowning:


P.S. I do question this statement though.
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no uoa for the old oil no need, I aint running it again in a gas engine that recomends thinner oils. I apologize for pushing it. I am humbled by facts.

Exactly what facts are you refering to as humbleing you????? I saw no facts in the above.


The facts I speak of are those posted in the used oil analysis section of the 5w20's showing outstanding performance. The RTS may or may not have produced a better uoa..In the life of the vehicle I doubt it will be significantly better or worse. It was a first interval of the oil and it was heavily doped with LC and about 15% M1. Not a good candidate.
 
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Originally posted by GoldenRod:
I'm wondering if there's a BITOGer who has had the guts to try 5W-20 in an engine speced for 10w30?

SAE 5W-20 can be run in the vast majority of the newer engines.
According to Ford's TSB 01-4-7 dated March 5, 2001:
"SAE 5W-20 is an improved formulation to improve fuel economy.
Testing has validated that SAE 5W-20 can be used in many previous model year vehicles.
It is recommended ALL vehicles on the following Vehicle Application Listing be serviced with SAE 5W-20."
The list includes the 1993-up Escort, Ranger, Tempo, Taurus, Continental, Mark VIII, Thunderbird, Bronco to list a few.

Exceptions:

The 2001-02 Villager, 3.9L Licoln LS, 4.0L Ranger/Explorer and 2002 SVT Focus.

P.S. I don't and won't use 5W-20 in any of my vehicles.
I run extended OCI intervals and couldn't care less about the additional 1-2 MPG (maybe) the thinner grade provides.
 
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Originally posted by GoldenRod:
I'm wondering if there's a BITOGer who has had the guts to try 5W-20 in an engine speced for 10w30?

Been there. Done that.

My Chrysler is spec'd for 10w30 and I've been using 5w20 in it for almost two years. Great UOA results:

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Originally posted by RF Overlord:
...the SL 5w30 was 56 at 40° and 10 at 100°. The new SM is 64.8 at 40° and 11.3 at 100°...

And the Mobil 1 5w30 version before that was 53.7 @40°C and 9.7 @100°C.


I agree. All synthetics that meet ILSAC are/ have been in the 10-10.x cst range.Some have been in the 9.x range.Check this slightly dated topic: http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=009433 The current darling oil,Pennzoil Platinum, is listed by Pennzoil as 59.66 @ 40c and 10.52 for the 5W30 and 63.23 and 10.37 for the 10W30. Why do people feel a compulsion to constantly refer to Mobil 1 as being "thin" and yet oils that are "thinner" aren't?
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Big surprise that you feel a difference, when you go from a thicker than recommended oil to the thinnest oil in the recommended range
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Bryan,

Does your Mitsu have a temp limitation for the 5W20 oil? Just curious.

On another topic. I thought that an API SJ 5W30 is about the same as an SM 5W20. No?
 
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Originally posted by GoldenRod:
G-Man II,

Do you think maybe your results would have been simular with the less expensive MC 5W-20?


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I've got Castrol GTX 5w20 in there now. I'll run a used oil analysis on it next fall and see how it does. (This will be the first GF4/SM rated oil I've used.)
 
There's at least one Subaru owner running 5-20 and posting used oil analysis on BITOG. I'm in agreement that since the older multiviscosity 30 weights often quickly "sheared" to a 20 weight, it's not a quantum leap in logic to realize the SM rated 5-20's are abso-effn-lutely fine to run in an engine spec'd for 30 weights. Furthermore, a 0-20 would be even better...especially for those people that mostly run around town, with lots of cold starts.
 
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