UPDATE on the Pirelli Cinturato P7 All-Season PLUS(225-60-16) for my BIL/SIL on their '03 Mitusbishi Outlander 2WD.
They love'em! Last Weekend, we got an 8" snow dumping and they were over having dinner with us. The snow was heavy and wet and the plows were just starting to come out. When they left to go home that evening, the roads were covered with snow again and the driving would have been very slippery on their way home.
This particular Mitsubishi has never been a good vehicle in the winter time(2WD) and most of the tires that they have purchaced over the years would not bite into the snow/ice and would also hydroplane in rain on the hiwy even when new.
Thus far since their purchace, we have had freezing snow/ice(2 NE Storms) and heavy rain when the temps decided to warm up for a day or two, prior to getting back down to freezing tempuratures again.
The tires are very quiet(I've driven/road in this mini CUV) and I can attest to the tire quiet, sharp(er) cornering(driven respectively as they do) and just overall road manners.
Granted they did have several hundred dollars(nearing $1000) of susspension work/alingment performed prior to the tire installation but, the body structure and susspension is very tight in that old Asian Car way for 150K + miles. Rust is another matter
The P7 has made the steering different in a very good way as they still had their old tires(w/lots of tread remaining) on their Mitsu CUV even after the susspension/alignment. NOW,there is a noticable tightness/steering responce with the P7's as their old tires(which look fine), caused wander and just a slipperness on the road. Even in the dry, the old tires had a disconnected feel and now, the P7's have a very confident & connected feel on the road.
Their comments are: "the car never felt this good when it was new!" [11 yrs ago].
I must say that the overall feel of this '03 Outlander is very tight feeling now, the ride over imperfections is a huge change and just from the drive, you'd never know it had 150K miles. There really is a difference but, lots of factors have helped with this change in personality(susspension work/new tire).
If I had let them buy tires on their own, they would have purchaced overpriced low end tires(again, based on price). We got the tires from Treadepot for $374 shipped(225-60-16) plus a Walmart install and he(BIL) said that he had never paid this little for tires.
BTW, W*M refunded their money due to the Tech installing the tires(asymetrical), put them inside/out even after mentioning this apon arrival and once again, bringing the tires back to have them corrected and waiting another hour. They(Techs) either installed the tire wrong again or just didn't correct the issue...Called the MGR and he made things right!
Longevity and overall performanc as the tires age, all remain to be seen. But, if they have similar success with the P7's as I have had with my P4's, they're going to love'em for a long time
They love'em! Last Weekend, we got an 8" snow dumping and they were over having dinner with us. The snow was heavy and wet and the plows were just starting to come out. When they left to go home that evening, the roads were covered with snow again and the driving would have been very slippery on their way home.
This particular Mitsubishi has never been a good vehicle in the winter time(2WD) and most of the tires that they have purchaced over the years would not bite into the snow/ice and would also hydroplane in rain on the hiwy even when new.
Thus far since their purchace, we have had freezing snow/ice(2 NE Storms) and heavy rain when the temps decided to warm up for a day or two, prior to getting back down to freezing tempuratures again.
The tires are very quiet(I've driven/road in this mini CUV) and I can attest to the tire quiet, sharp(er) cornering(driven respectively as they do) and just overall road manners.
Granted they did have several hundred dollars(nearing $1000) of susspension work/alingment performed prior to the tire installation but, the body structure and susspension is very tight in that old Asian Car way for 150K + miles. Rust is another matter
The P7 has made the steering different in a very good way as they still had their old tires(w/lots of tread remaining) on their Mitsu CUV even after the susspension/alignment. NOW,there is a noticable tightness/steering responce with the P7's as their old tires(which look fine), caused wander and just a slipperness on the road. Even in the dry, the old tires had a disconnected feel and now, the P7's have a very confident & connected feel on the road.
Their comments are: "the car never felt this good when it was new!" [11 yrs ago].
I must say that the overall feel of this '03 Outlander is very tight feeling now, the ride over imperfections is a huge change and just from the drive, you'd never know it had 150K miles. There really is a difference but, lots of factors have helped with this change in personality(susspension work/new tire).
If I had let them buy tires on their own, they would have purchaced overpriced low end tires(again, based on price). We got the tires from Treadepot for $374 shipped(225-60-16) plus a Walmart install and he(BIL) said that he had never paid this little for tires.
BTW, W*M refunded their money due to the Tech installing the tires(asymetrical), put them inside/out even after mentioning this apon arrival and once again, bringing the tires back to have them corrected and waiting another hour. They(Techs) either installed the tire wrong again or just didn't correct the issue...Called the MGR and he made things right!
Longevity and overall performanc as the tires age, all remain to be seen. But, if they have similar success with the P7's as I have had with my P4's, they're going to love'em for a long time
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