Winter Tires for Severe Winter - Michelin X-Ice not Cutting it

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My pickup, a 2nd gen Tundra with 275-65R18 tires, has a set of Michelin X-Ice Suv snows. They are on their 3rd winter they are not cutting it anymore. This winter has been harsh so far, lots of ice, snow and snow pack, and I am slipping and sliding all over the place with these tires; they do not perform as they did new. I put less than 5K miles per winter on these tires and they measured about 7/32s when I installed them in the fall. So even the wear hasn't been good. I am quite disappointed in ther performance and wear on my truck. They were a better match for my wifes lighter Rav4, expecially for wear. My last set of winter tires on my truck was Blizzak DM-V2s. They were overall a better tire and performed better at winter #4 than these Michelins did at winter #3.

I live in an area with harsh winters and drive on snowy and icy roads almost every day. My road is not salted, so it is usually snow packed all winter and can get as slippery as glare ice if not sanded. Add to that, my house is halfway up a hill. My commute does include a major highway which is generally cleared well and heavily salted, and secondary rural roads which are sloppy due to less thorough snow removal and a sand/salt mixture (usually down the middle of the road only).

I am looking at a few tires:

  • Nokian Hakkapeliitta R10
  • Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5
  • Continental Vikingcontact 8
  • Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V2
  • Bridgestone Blizzak LT

I am ok with compromising some dry/wet performance for ultimate snow/ice performance. Which is why I am leaning toward Nokian Hakka R10s, with studs. I ran Firestone Winterforce studded tires years ago on a 2WD Suburban and they made that truck a tank. From the Tyre Reviews website, the R10s seem to compare very well to other top tires like the Hakka R5s or Continentals.

I just installed Continental VC8s on the Rav4 and they are great, noticeably better than the Michelins it had. I can get these for my truck, but I don't like how shallow the tread depth is. One issue found with the Michelins is shallow tread depth. Now that they have 7/32s tread, they get plugged up very easily in wet/sticky snow and essentially become slicks. The deep tread seems to help avoid this. R5s seem to be comparable to VC8s but have more tread depth.

The Blizzak DM-V2s were decent when I used them in th past but its an old design and I'd like to go better. They are the cheapest option. The Blizzak in LT have very deep tread depth but are expensive and probably ride rougher. I have no idea how they would perform in the snow compared to the lighter duty P tires.

Any advice is appreciated, opinions or experience appreciated.
 
Nokian R5 is a much better tire overall than the R10. but if you want ultimate traction on ice, the R10 is top. my niece has the Nokian R5 on her 2021 GMC Yukon Xl and they are excellent tires. Studded tires are not my preference. they have atrocious handling on dry plowed roads, poor rolling resistance, they are noisy. the only very good quality they have is on ice and slippery roads. R5 is better at everything else including deep snow.
 
I am ok with compromising some dry/wet performance for ultimate snow/ice performance. Which is why I am leaning toward Nokian Hakka R10s, with studs.
Excellent choice for severe winters.

From the MOTOR magazine (Norway) 2025 annual winter test, this is their summary of the Nokian Hakka 10 SUV (just 10, there is no R10 model)

https://na.nokiantyres.com/snow-winter-tires/nokian-tyres-hakkapeliitta-10-suv/

https://www.motor.no/tester/nokian-hakkapeliitta-10/328720

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My pickup, a 2nd gen Tundra with 275-65R18 tires, has a set of Michelin X-Ice Suv snows. They are on their 3rd winter they are not cutting it anymore. This winter has been harsh so far, lots of ice, snow and snow pack, and I am slipping and sliding all over the place with these tires; they do not perform as they did new. I put less than 5K miles per winter on these tires and they measured about 7/32s when I installed them in the fall. So even the wear hasn't been good. I am quite disappointed in ther performance and wear on my truck. They were a better match for my wifes lighter Rav4, expecially for wear. My last set of winter tires on my truck was Blizzak DM-V2s. They were overall a better tire and performed better at winter #4 than these Michelins did at winter #3.

I live in an area with harsh winters and drive on snowy and icy roads almost every day. My road is not salted, so it is usually snow packed all winter and can get as slippery as glare ice if not sanded. Add to that, my house is halfway up a hill. My commute does include a major highway which is generally cleared well and heavily salted, and secondary rural roads which are sloppy due to less thorough snow removal and a sand/salt mixture (usually down the middle of the road only).

I am looking at a few tires:

  • Nokian Hakkapeliitta R10
  • Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5
  • Continental Vikingcontact 8
  • Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V2
  • Bridgestone Blizzak LT

I am ok with compromising some dry/wet performance for ultimate snow/ice performance. Which is why I am leaning toward Nokian Hakka R10s, with studs. I ran Firestone Winterforce studded tires years ago on a 2WD Suburban and they made that truck a tank. From the Tyre Reviews website, the R10s seem to compare very well to other top tires like the Hakka R5s or Continentals.

I just installed Continental VC8s on the Rav4 and they are great, noticeably better than the Michelins it had. I can get these for my truck, but I don't like how shallow the tread depth is. One issue found with the Michelins is shallow tread depth. Now that they have 7/32s tread, they get plugged up very easily in wet/sticky snow and essentially become slicks. The deep tread seems to help avoid this. R5s seem to be comparable to VC8s but have more tread depth.

The Blizzak DM-V2s were decent when I used them in th past but its an old design and I'd like to go better. They are the cheapest option. The Blizzak in LT have very deep tread depth but are expensive and probably ride rougher. I have no idea how they would perform in the snow compared to the lighter duty P tires.

Any advice is appreciated, opinions or experience appreciated.

Are studs legal in Ontario? :unsure:

Get the Nokian R5 or the Vikings, along with either a set of chains or snow socks.
Northern Ontario they are allowed.
 
Hakk 10 studded for sure. And on sale at Kaltire right now $50 off per tire.
I run Hakk 9 studded on my RAV4, an excellent tire.
I am seeing similar conditions, Northern Ontario here as well.
The Hakk factory studs are built different. Triangle pattern on the outside row for turning bite and oval in the center studs for stopping and acceleration traction.
The generic studs they install at tire shops are nowhere in the same league as the Hakk factory studs.
 
Wow! I hope my experience is different. I just put my first set of X-ice Snow SUV on my wife's X5. We haven't had any snow worth measuring this winter, so I don't know how they are in snow or ice yet. I will say I am a little disappointed with they noise. They hum on the highway.

I had a set of Blizzak DM-V1 on my wife's Outback and they were rock stars. They were replaced with a set of DM-V2, which were also fantastic. But I went with the X-ice tires this time, based upon recent reviews and recommendations. Hope I'm not disappointed.
 
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My pickup, a 2nd gen Tundra with 275-65R18 tires, has a set of Michelin X-Ice Suv snows. They are on their 3rd winter they are not cutting it anymore. This winter has been harsh so far, lots of ice, snow and snow pack, and I am slipping and sliding all over the place with these tires; they do not perform as they did new. I put less than 5K miles per winter on these tires and they measured about 7/32s when I installed them in the fall. So even the wear hasn't been good. I am quite disappointed in ther performance and wear on my truck. They were a better match for my wifes lighter Rav4, expecially for wear. My last set of winter tires on my truck was Blizzak DM-V2s. They were overall a better tire and performed better at winter #4 than these Michelins did at winter #3.

I live in an area with harsh winters and drive on snowy and icy roads almost every day. My road is not salted, so it is usually snow packed all winter and can get as slippery as glare ice if not sanded. Add to that, my house is halfway up a hill. My commute does include a major highway which is generally cleared well and heavily salted, and secondary rural roads which are sloppy due to less thorough snow removal and a sand/salt mixture (usually down the middle of the road only).

I am looking at a few tires:

  • Nokian Hakkapeliitta R10
  • Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5
  • Continental Vikingcontact 8
  • Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V2
  • Bridgestone Blizzak LT

I am ok with compromising some dry/wet performance for ultimate snow/ice performance. Which is why I am leaning toward Nokian Hakka R10s, with studs. I ran Firestone Winterforce studded tires years ago on a 2WD Suburban and they made that truck a tank. From the Tyre Reviews website, the R10s seem to compare very well to other top tires like the Hakka R5s or Continentals.

I just installed Continental VC8s on the Rav4 and they are great, noticeably better than the Michelins it had. I can get these for my truck, but I don't like how shallow the tread depth is. One issue found with the Michelins is shallow tread depth. Now that they have 7/32s tread, they get plugged up very easily in wet/sticky snow and essentially become slicks. The deep tread seems to help avoid this. R5s seem to be comparable to VC8s but have more tread depth.

The Blizzak DM-V2s were decent when I used them in th past but its an old design and I'd like to go better. They are the cheapest option. The Blizzak in LT have very deep tread depth but are expensive and probably ride rougher. I have no idea how they would perform in the snow compared to the lighter duty P tires.

Any advice is appreciated, opinions or experience appreciated.
Blizzaks or Vredstein maybe. The Nokian are also a great option.
 
One often overlooked technique, even on 4WD vehicles, is weight on the rear wheels.

We put 100-300 lbs of tube sand or weight plates over the rear axle on our 4Runner and Outback when we are expecting a bad storm. Both the 4Runner and Outback have over 55% weight on the front wheels, so adding that weight to the rear gives you a lot of drive.

Both vehicles have Hakka R5 / R5 SUV.
 
Wow! I hope my experience is different. I just put my first set of X-ice Snow SUV on my wife's X5. We haven't had any snow worth measuring this winter, so I don't know how they are in snow or ice yet. I will say I am a little disappointed with the noise. They hum on the highway. ///
Wear makes a big difference and your tires are new, while OP’s tires have some wear.
 
I'd avoid the very long in the tooth dm-v2 Its based off the ws-80, and those were discontinued for the ws-90 6-7 years ago

I feel the michelin xice snow on my forester (now outback) were average at best(for a winter tire) in winter conditions.

The viking contact 7's on the 2020 elantra are amazing.

So I'd go VikingContact 8 for studless.

If you really want studs the Hakka 10's are pretty much the king vs a bunch of old outdated studded designs.
 
Nokian R5 is a much better tire overall than the R10. but if you want ultimate traction on ice, the R10 is top. my niece has the Nokian R5 on her 2021 GMC Yukon Xl and they are excellent tires. Studded tires are not my preference. they have atrocious handling on dry plowed roads, poor rolling resistance, they are noisy. the only very good quality they have is on ice and slippery roads. R5 is better at everything else including deep snow.
I have always thought the same, that studs aren't any good on dry and wet roads, which is why I haven't run them for years. However, looking at this tire comparison at Tyre Reviews, it shows the R10 is probably the better performer all around and does fine on wet/dry roads.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Compare/Hakkapeliitta-10-VS-Hakkapeliitta-R5.htm

This video also uses Hakk R10s as a bench mark, and it shows how much better it is on ice in all categories and also better in snow traction and snow braking. Snow handling is down on the others. It is very hard to find any real data comparing these studded tires.





Hakk 10 studded for sure. And on sale at Kaltire right now $50 off per tire.
I run Hakk 9 studded on my RAV4, an excellent tire.
I am seeing similar conditions, Northern Ontario here as well.
The Hakk factory studs are built different. Triangle pattern on the outside row for turning bite and oval in the center studs for stopping and acceleration traction.
The generic studs they install at tire shops are nowhere in the same league as the Hakk factory studs.

Yes, Northern Ontario as well, and similar conditions to what you would see in Sudbury. I feel that the X-Ice ids a good tire for a Toronto winter - not our winters.

How are they for noise and fuel economy? I saw the $50 off per tire at Kal, which got me thinking about switching sooner than later.

For those that don't know, studs are legal for Northern Ontario residents.

Wow! I hope my experience is different. I just put my first set of X-ice Snow SUV on my wife's X5. We haven't had any snow worth measuring this winter, so I don't know how they are in snow or ice yet. I will say I am a little disappointed with they noise. They hum on the highway.

I had a set of Blizzak DM-V1 on my wife's Outback and they were rock stars. They were replaced with a set of DM-V2, which were also fantastic. But I went with the X-ice tires this time, based upon recent reviews and recommendations. Hope I'm not disappointed.

They were ok on our Rav4, which is much better balanced than my pickup and also has AWD instead of RWD/4WD. These tires were decent on the Rav4 and wore ok, but not good enough for me to buy again (I switched to Continental VC8s which I like much better so far). For my truck, they are already wore quickly and are down to 7/32s, so they do not perform as well as they did new. This is part of my disappointment, I bought the Michelins in the hope to get more than 4 winters, but it looks like I am going to only get 3 winters.
 
I have always thought the same, that studs aren't any good on dry and wet roads, which is why I haven't run them for years. However, looking at this tire comparison at Tyre Reviews, it shows the R10 is probably the better performer all around and does fine on wet/dry.///
There is one big problem with tire tests, no matter how professionally they are done: they only test new tires. This is particularly problematic with studded versus friction tires because studs seem to wear pretty fast on bare pavement.

How they perform after decreased tread depth (and stud length) from several seasons of wear and hundreds of heat cycles is anyone’s guess.
 
............It is very hard to find any real data comparing these studded tires.......
Why do you say that? TyreReviews does a good job of showing test data from multiple European sources, for studded tires.

MOTOR magazine in Norway publishes studded tire test results every year. This is the 2025/2026 test:

https://www.motor.no/aktuelt/motors-vinterdekktest-2025-de-beste-piggdekkene/328091

https://www.motor.no/aktuelt/vinterdekktesten-2025-alle-resultatene/328115

(Google Translate works very well for Norwegian to English translation)
 
VC8 if studless. R20 if you go studded.
I am at around 8/32 on VC7 on Sequoia and they are still going strong.
I had DM-V2 three times I think, and was always hesitant with their lateral ice handling, which I found borderline dangerous.
 
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