Originally Posted By: tdi-rick
OK, this is getting waaaay OT but the Clevo and Windsor are totally different engines.
The Cleveland was built in Oz till about '82-'84, and these engines are the ones used by DeTomaso.
In the early eighties DeTomaso actually shipped partial kits to Oz where the engines were then fitted. At the time Ford had officially stopped production of their V8 here, but it appears they kept casting and building for DeTomaso, at least for a little while.
Generally the Oz built engines had a higher nickel content in the iron, and were a little better finished.
I have an early eighties production unit in an '80 model F series. 4V valves in 2V 302 bathtub heads, etc, etc, running on LPG (propane)
A cousin had a full house 4V Clevo in a GT Falcon.
Thing didn't start to work till it hit 4 grand, then hang on as the tach swept past 6500....
I've had a couple of Clevo's on the wrong side of 6500, one was in top gear at the time.......
Yes, which was my comment to Gary.
Both were smallbock engines with interchangeable heads though. The Cleveland and the Windsor were different in deck height, main bearing size and a host of other things, such as the water neck being part of the block on the front of the intake...etc.
In 1969, a set of Cleveland-derived heads made their way on top of a 4-bolt version of the 302 Windsor and became known as the BOSS 302. A 9,000RPM+ smallblock with heads that flows like toilets.
A not-so-common-anymore home-grown engine is the Clevor; basically a Windsor with Cleveland heads. A number of companies made intakes and/or intake adaptor plates for this application.
You aussies were lucky you had it as long as you did, emissions regulations killed it's production here after only a few short years; it was an engine the GM boys hated.
