Here’s one last thing. We always had the impression that 60’s muscle cars ran on banana skin tires. Here is a replica tire used on the 69 Z 28. It has a 8.4 inch width. Certainly not as wide as a radial of the same rim width, but not all that bad. Enjoy.
'24 Toyota GR86 vs '69 Camaro
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Pure stock. Almost in the 11's. Just headers and slicks would get her to mid low 11's
550 at the tires will get you tens everything else being sanitary
Just a sample of 1 for you statistic guys
Better endoscope that pickup if you own one. My wife would blow it up - or me
Pure stock. Almost in the 11's. Just headers and slicks would get her to mid low 11's
550 at the tires will get you tens everything else being sanitary
Just a sample of 1 for you statistic guys
Yes, a good approximation might be a 3500 lb car like a 69 Camaro, 550 HP at the wheels, which might be 600 HP at the flywheel, and you would be in the high 10’s. If you want to do the Holy Grail of 10.0, it’s more like 700 HP.
The 262 and 267 were worse! No nickle blocks so they wore out like they were cast from Cheese.Bad comparison-the 307 was the weakest of the SBCs, except for maybe the smogged 305. Get a 350 or BBC in that Camaro & try again!
If most of your driving is in a straight line, ten seconds at a time: Camaro is a great car.
If you like to turn left and right, and go fast and slow: Everything else.
Kidding aside, this is a very American thread. Americans buy torque and think the quarter mile competition is "racing." The GR86/BRZ and the Miata are the only affordable, naturally aspirated, rwd sports cars out there. They are not perfect, but they put a smile on your face — usually between 15 and 45 mph. They have a little finesse. The rawness, brutality and violence of muscle cars says everything about the American national character.
I love cars. Pick the one that makes you happy. But the OP is comparing two things that really have little in common.
If you like to turn left and right, and go fast and slow: Everything else.
Kidding aside, this is a very American thread. Americans buy torque and think the quarter mile competition is "racing." The GR86/BRZ and the Miata are the only affordable, naturally aspirated, rwd sports cars out there. They are not perfect, but they put a smile on your face — usually between 15 and 45 mph. They have a little finesse. The rawness, brutality and violence of muscle cars says everything about the American national character.
I love cars. Pick the one that makes you happy. But the OP is comparing two things that really have little in common.
These guys can't drive
I don’t think Earnhardt could run those times.
When I say Earnhardt I’m taking about # 3…… not # 88.
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Have you driven a newer Camaro? I mean they destroy the GR86.If most of your driving is in a straight line, ten seconds at a time: Camaro is a great car.
If you like to turn left and right, and go fast and slow: Everything else.
Kidding aside, this is a very American thread. Americans buy torque and think the quarter mile competition is "racing." The GR86/BRZ and the Miata are the only affordable, naturally aspirated, rwd sports cars out there. They are not perfect, but they put a smile on your face — usually between 15 and 45 mph. They have a little finesse. The rawness, brutality and violence of muscle cars says everything about the American national character.
I love cars. Pick the one that makes you happy. But the OP is comparing two things that really have little in common.
ls1mike
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He probably would have went faster. Most LS1 4th Gens were solid 13.20 to 13.60 cars. The 2001 and 2002 were better as they had some updates and could tick off 12.90-13.00 in 6 speed trim.
Define "destroy."
I have heard that there is some version of the new Camaro that is very competitive, a great driving car.
For me, the key metric for sports cars is power-to-weight. I like a sports car to be under 3,000 lbs. Over that, and we are talking about a GT car.
ls1mike
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Actually dr
So much so the comparisons only included the V6 and 2.0 turbo.The 2.0 turbo car pulls almost Identical numbers to GR86. This isn't 1989 or 1999. If look at numbers for the V6 car and the SS they are just better than the BRZ. Like you said it comes down to what you like,Define "destroy."
I have heard that there is some version of the new Camaro that is very competitive, a great driving car.
For me, the key metric for sports cars is power-to-weight. I like a sports car to be under 3,000 lbs. Over that, and we are talking about a GT car.
I respect what you are saying, but I have to go back to my original point. You say, "Pulls identical numbers." What numbers? Horsepower and torque? Those numbers alone don't mean anything to me, but they mean a lot to the average American car buyer.
By the way, I'm glad it's not 1989. That was a sh*tty time for American cars. I mean, sh*ttier than usual.
Well, I was thinking of the good old pre-emissions days. GM had anemic, underpowered V8s down to a science in the late ‘70s/early ‘80s-until Ford brought out the 5.0 Holley carbureted Mustang GTs. That got the party started for American V8 performance again!
ls1mike
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Skid pad, slalom, braking I'm not even going to talk about 1/4 mi!e.I respect what you are saying, but I have to go back to my original point. You say, "Pulls identical numbers." What numbers? Horsepower and torque? Those numbers alone don't mean anything to me, but they mean a lot to the average American car buyer.
By the way, I'm glad it's not 1989. That was a sh*tty time for American cars. I mean, sh*ttier than usual.
1989 was a lot better than 1979.I respect what you are saying, but I have to go back to my original point. You say, "Pulls identical numbers." What numbers? Horsepower and torque? Those numbers alone don't mean anything to me, but they mean a lot to the average American car buyer.
By the way, I'm glad it's not 1989. That was a sh*tty time for American cars. I mean, sh*ttier than usual.
Well with either 355 or 455 HP obviously in a straight line. On a very curvy, not so much.
ls1mike
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Ha ha benchracers! I see you on the road, and you are all slow. I can't even get down the street to the grocery store buffet in time before all the fired chicken is taken due to all the slugs.
