2025 Ram 1500 SST Engine Tear Down
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No, it’s the new Hurricane 6 Twin Turbo replacement for the Hemi.
Assuming the job is done, I'd like to know how it is running now. I love an I6, not sure about sprayed in cylinder liners or 1 high pressure injector per cylinder over the long haul in a DI engine. I thought other mfgs. learned the hard way about that. Stellantis used sleeved cylinders in the Turbo I4, I wonder why they went the sprayed in liners, saving a couple of pounds? Really?
I don’t know why people get all bent out of shape about the cab coming off. It seems to me for an hour of work that would make many jobs infinitely easier and more likely done better.
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Probably because that makes it a lot harder for most DIY guys. To someone in a shop taking off the cab will make the job a lot easier and the equipment to do it is usually there, depending on the shop.
Because it is not an hours worth of work to remove and replace the cab. Plenty of steering, braking, electrical stuff to disconnect and reconnect/bleed and test.
I thought it was accepted that the more things you touch, the greater the possibility of introducing problems.
The designs requiring the cab to come off seem to favor production cost at the expense of serviceability.
You'd never consider such designs where field repair was expected and critical, like military, 3rd World countries, or even as an engineer for ANY product where the user was likely to have to field-service.
Furthermore, how many techs would TRULY trust every tech in your shop to competently remove a cab and replace with care? @AutoMechanic works with guys who can't even install wheels properly.
The more steps you add to the service manual, the more you increase cost for the consumer and shorten the list of guys who can REALLY do it.
The designs requiring the cab to come off seem to favor production cost at the expense of serviceability.
You'd never consider such designs where field repair was expected and critical, like military, 3rd World countries, or even as an engineer for ANY product where the user was likely to have to field-service.
Furthermore, how many techs would TRULY trust every tech in your shop to competently remove a cab and replace with care? @AutoMechanic works with guys who can't even install wheels properly.
The more steps you add to the service manual, the more you increase cost for the consumer and shorten the list of guys who can REALLY do it.
I’m not saying to do it unnecessarily but somethings are easier and more predictable with the cab off. I just want it done correctly the first time.
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Respectfully disagree. For pros in a shop this is not a huge deal. And there are not many jobs that require it. This is also the way you would have to pull a hemi for the past many years - it is not a new requirement for a hurricane motor.
Also, straight six configuration gives plentiful access on the left and right side of the engine bay. This will undoubtedly simplify many more routine and normal maintenance and repair tasks. We had a Grand Wagoneer L with the HO hurricane as a rental. Drove it about 2k miles. Call me very impressed. Comparable to a BMW turbo six, this one had more power than the ones I have driven, I of course popped the hood to have a look and there was plenty of room under the hood.
Finally, and respectfully, not trying to argue, the DIY community is not important to any major car manufacturer today, probably never really was. The gentleman I know who owns a BMW shop and is a master tech told me a few weeks ago he is at the point where he has to spend tens of thousands of dollars a year on special tools, software, updates, etc. to be able to properly repair new BMWs, and BMW is not at all weird or an outlier in this respect, from what he told me. So the reality unless you are talking about basic maintenance tasks like oil and fluid changes, no normal person is pulling a hemi or a hurricane in the driveway, so the issue about cab removal being hard or impractical for a DIYer is somewhat irrelevant.
All that being said, if this were my truck, irrespective of brand, I would sell it when the job is done. Not for the cab removal, but because it has been my experience that motor replacements after the assembly line lead to other problems down the line from the work not being done to the same spec as the factory, and the cab removal replacement is the least of the issues. Not had the issue with my Ram, but I have with my wife’s Honda and one of my BMWs. I won’t make that mistake again.
Have a good weekend everyone.
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Maybe they should have made it like a semi and put a tilting hood on it.
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Our Ford dealer sells mostly Super Duty pickups and has a separate bay for cab off jobs and with two techs …
This (Chrysler) is what happens when a manufacturing company is run by MBAs rather than engineers. On a broader level it's the story of the American corporation. Just ask Boeing!
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The cab off requirement isn't new, nor is it exclusive to Chrysler. That was step 1 when doing the EGR cooler on the early 2000's Super Duty for example.This (Chrysler) is what happens when a manufacturing company is run by MBAs rather than engineers. On a broader level it's the story of the American corporation. Just ask Boeing!
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