Hard to believe I read this on BITOG. Why not make it 6,000 or 5,000 pounds? That would eliminate most crew cab V8 4wds. Who needs them?
That’s not what I said. If you were driving anything but a large truck you’d see the sheer amount of people driving large vehicles that don’t have the use or ability to drive them. I shouldn’t have to go back to driving a huge vehicle that only gets 20mpg on a good day to get a bit more metal between me and them. It’s dangerous that the average person can buy something that heavy. I have no problem with people towing that need to tow. People using them as grocery getters that are inattentive and aren’t tuned to stopping distances like someone that uses a truck to it’s potential literally shouldn’t be able to have them.
I'll just add that a 96kWh battery isn't small, it's larger than the one found in many EV's. It will inherently have less range in this application, just due to the size of the vehicle, but, as @hemioiler noted, it'll be considerably more than adequate for day-to-day usage and I can't see how you'd end up deep discharging it, since most people will be plugging it in at night and won't be trying to make 200 mile trips every day.
It’s not a climate change thing for me. I just don’t like the unnecessary add ons. So many buy for the 2% usage scenario and then buy so much more vehicle for something they might do. I much prefer simplicity in most cases. It’s why I simplified.
You're right. I think the end game is to fill a certain void until the 2035 deadline to go all electric. Which more than likely will go way beyond that. In any event with 2035 in mind and Stellanis pumping close to $25mil into the Michigan plant that makes the 3.6L engines, it was the logical choice, for now. The I4 Turbo is not as smooth an engine according to them, and a Turbo is not needed in this application. The engine is inexpensive to make, and is in most of their vehicles now. As or if this thing evolves things might change. But for now they felt it was the logical choice while the country struggles to go all electric. There is also a chance that things might change in 2024 and ICE gets a break for a while, and they reassess the 2035 deadline.
It shouldn't have to be looked at like this though. This whole ICE ban that a some states have done is completely being blown out of proportion and aside from California and maybe New York that would go through with it, it most certainly will get pushed back. If I needed a truck again it would only be ICE, because I'd prefer some common sense and as much as a truck is one of my least favorite form factors for a vehicle, they become exponentially heavier and less useful as an EV. I find EVs much more attractive propositions and useful in smaller vehicles. I get why people like hybrids, but for me as I mentioned I just don't like the complication which for me becomes a worst of both worlds appliance. There's some exceptions where they're only there as power adders, the new Corvette E-Ray comes to mind. Maybe I'm just a snooty car enthusiast and I dislike everyman targeted products.
I look at it that way because at the moment I reside in NY. We're actively working on changing that, I won't elaborate anymore than that. My next vehicle will certainly be ICE, and later on I'll keep my fingers crossed hybrids are still around. Unfortunately the thought of all electric does not appeal to me at all, not even a little bit. At my age I might just skate by, especially if things go the way I'm hoping.It shouldn't have to be looked at like this though. This whole ICE ban that a some states have done is completely being blown out of proportion and aside from California and maybe New York that would go through with it, it most certainly will get pushed back. If I needed a truck again it would only be ICE, because I'd prefer some common sense and as much as a truck is one of my least favorite form factors for a vehicle, they become exponentially heavier and less useful as an EV. I find EVs much more attractive propositions and useful in smaller vehicles. I get why people like hybrids, but for me as I mentioned I just don't like the complication which for me becomes a worst of both worlds appliance. There's some exceptions where they're only there as power adders, the new Corvette E-Ray comes to mind. Maybe I'm just a snooty car enthusiast and I dislike everyman targeted products.
There will be no ICE ban, sooner or later the states that said there will be will find a squirmy way out of it.It shouldn't have to be looked at like this though. This whole ICE ban that a some states have done is completely being blown out of proportion and aside from California and maybe New York that would go through with it, it most certainly will get pushed back. If I needed a truck again it would only be ICE, because I'd prefer some common sense and as much as a truck is one of my least favorite form factors for a vehicle, they become exponentially heavier and less useful as an EV. I find EVs much more attractive propositions and useful in smaller vehicles. I get why people like hybrids, but for me as I mentioned I just don't like the complication which for me becomes a worst of both worlds appliance. There's some exceptions where they're only there as power adders, the new Corvette E-Ray comes to mind. Maybe I'm just a snooty car enthusiast and I dislike everyman targeted products.
Of course I disagree being controlled what I choose to purchase because of someone else’s thoughts on how they should decide for me.
Oh I 100% agree. This crap needs to die anyway. I love EVs, but I want to be able to buy whatever car I want without being told what it has to run on. I get the need for emissions standards, but it shouldn't completely exclude something. They may be tightening emissions a bit fast for technology's sake, but if we weren't so deadset on each model of the same vehicle being larger than the last it might not be as hard. No one can tell me a vehicle needs to grow in size with every generation. Look at a Corolla, Civic, or especially any truck. Heck even the short span of the life of the Toyota Highlander. I know even the Golf has grown, but it might be the narrowest spread since it's original inception of any car still in production and I think that's by design because their goal was packaging. There's not a single car on the market that has a better percentage of usable interior space to outside dimensions and some still argue it has grown too much.
You'd be safe. I'd only smear myself on the side of your tank of a truck with a badge the size of my car.
I think it might be a loose interpretation of calling it an EV. If it's an EV a locomotive is an EV.
The pricing really has killed everything, especially trucks. I just looked for a similarly optioned truck to buy a new F150 as my 2017 I bought new. It would cost me 20k more for the same option level for the same engine. That's nearly a 50% increase in price.
+1 On a positive note I read that NY voted for diesel snow plows over electric snow plows. It looks like they got that right.
NYC garbage trucks double as snow plows."While the truck was efficient for garbage collection, its performance significantly dipped when faced with the snow removal tasks.
Sure. But EV itself especially for trucks is just silly unless the duty cycle and conditions are perfect.
yes. process itself has been around since the 60's and was used on coal fired plants... the Germans came out with DEF in the mid 2000's. also known as Adblue.
