2025 Ram 1500 Ramcharger PHEV

[hemioiler]

No one shifted anything. Fine you want to do this? What do you tow? How much do you make per year? Do you make money towing or is it for recreation? If it’s for recreation does that thing have an engine and bound for the water? If so you’re doing better than 90% of the people out there. If you can’t afford to drive anything else but the truck as a daily because you bought the boat you’re property rich and money poor.

Responsibility is dead.

That's a lovely finger. I think that says a lot about your position on this, all passion and no logic.

 

[Torrid]

That's a lovely finger. I think that says a lot about your position on this, all passion and no logic.

I’ve tried to talk to you. You fail to understand. I wish you the best, I really do. I’m done though.

 

[hemioiler]

I’ve tried to talk to you. You fail to understand. I wish you the best, I really do. I’m done though.

Oh I understand fully. You want to ban trucks that weigh more than your arbitrary number because you feel unsafe on the road, but you won't ban your own bucket of bolts that has excessive HP (by someone elses definition of excessive) because you happen to like your car. In other words, your position is hypocritical.

 

[JeffKeryk]

I honestly didn’t think you’d be one to disagree with that. I’m all for personal choice but these oversized illegally modded vehicles that share the same roads as me will encroach on my freedom when it hits me.

So will the idiot in the speeding Corvette, Porsche, or the too heavy EV.
Now if the vehicle is illegal, that's another thing. Unfortunately laws are for honest people.

And bad choices are for irresponsible people. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
Full disclosure, I have zero room to preach as I have driven illegal, dangerous vehicles thousands of miles dead drunk.

 

[fdcg27]

I see your point, but disagree. It's your money so it's your choice.

Once again, this has nothing to do with paying your money and making your choice and everything to do with the impact on other users of the common infrastructure.

 

[OVERKILL]

Yeah I'm well of how much JT has wrecked Canada, I'm north of the border. And that's exactly my point. They banned all kinds of guns because some people thought them unsafe, when in reality the people affected by these laws are just going about their day and harming no one. Criminals won't be stopped by these laws of course, it's all virtue signalling and pandering to his base, that's been his mode of operation from day 1.

A large part of the issue is that he's imposing further restrictions and regulations on law abiding people, while not enforcing existing regulations. The "catch and release" bail system for example, letting repeat offenders back out on the street, where they then go shoot up a neighbourhood in the GTA with an illegal gun, which prompts legitimate outrage about the safety of our cities, but irrational support of the idea that reducing legal ownership will somehow fix this.

Enforcement of existing regulation is critical, so that you don't end up with sweeping useless regulation pandering for votes like we've seen with him.

There is a difference between LEDs that are improperly focused and failing regulation, blinding everybody as they go by. That's not at all the same as banning personal trucks simply because they weigh more than some arbitrary number which is what originally triggered this little discussion. In the first case you're literally affecting everybody and blinding them, in the second case it's just a truck going about his way and minding his business. If a truck is lifted, it would need his lights aimed further down, that goes without saying.

The NHTSA has stated that it's impossible to retrofit HID's:

NHTSA has concluded that it is impossible to produce HID conversion kits (converting a halogen system to HID) that would be compliant with FMVSS No. 108.

So that is already illegal.

On LED's, there's a bit more nuance, since they can be designed with different beam patterns, including those designed to replicate that of halogen. However, I don't believe there are many, if any legal retrofits there either. If you want LED's or HID's, the best option is always to find an OE upgrade for the same vehicle.

I'm not for banning personal trucks, I'm fine with trucks, I own a truck, but I'm not fine with modifications that make them considerably less safe, particularly less safe to other people on the road because their suspension is going to go through the windshield due to the bumper height changing dramatically. There's no chance of ever aiming the lights properly with the "Carolina Squat" and those sorts of modifications are already illegal with the NHTSA, because it violates bumper height regulation. Trucks and full sized SUV's, due to their size and weight, present a larger liability when improperly and illegally modified, when compared to something like a compact car.

I just want existing laws/regulations enforced.

 

[hemioiler]

I just want existing laws/regulations enforced.

And this is how it should be. What's not OK is banning something that is perfectly safe but someone feels has the potential to wreck their life, while also not banning everything else in that category (sports cars). And also not acknowledging that his choice of car is just as "stupid" to bikers and cylists on the road, as an avid cyclist I can't tell you how many cars blow by me on the road at high RPMs just because they think it sounds nice and have no concept of sharing the road with cylists. It's stupid to me, and the exhaust stinks right in my face, but he's allowed on that road and he should be. If he speeds or drives recklessly, then deal with it at that point. Simply having the car and driving it is perfectly fine, even though the whole idea of a 500+ hp car is ridiculous; you can't actually use that HP anywhere on the road without breaking laws.

You're always going to find peoples tastes differ than yours, what's not OK is to legislate that choice and freedom away, because guaranteed other people will find things in your life that they would like to regulate away and at that point you won't have a leg to stand on.

 

[dnewton3]

We're done here. This has gone way out of bounds and a lot of personal bickering.
Locked.