2024 RAM 2500 quick review

most Ram 2500's have a payload less than 2500lbs... and Mega Cabs dont come in much higher than some 1500 series pickups..
even a 3500 Ram with SRW only has a payload of about 3500 lbs.. generally the only 2500's that show up having more than 3000 lbs payload are regular cab 2 wd... but I dont have a chart with me
I was mistaken. The payload per the door is 3276.

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When I sold Chrysler vehicles for a bit, I loved the power and engine note of the 6.4 Hemi, it is just great!
Watch for oil consumption…’some’ 6.4’s burn a lot more oil than the 5.7 version.
 
most Ram 2500's have a payload less than 2500lbs... and Mega Cabs dont come in much higher than some 1500 series pickups..
even a 3500 Ram with SRW only has a payload of about 3500 lbs.. generally the only 2500's that show up having more than 3000 lbs payload are regular cab 2 wd... but I dont have a chart with me

This happens all the time in RV forum land. Comparing the highest payload spec 1500 to the lowest 2500. Yes, there's overlap.

Our recently purchased 3500 SRW cummins megacab 4x4 is 4174 payload sticker. Laramie. Loaded. Every weight adding option box checked. Sunroof, console, heated rear seats, etc. 12,400 gvwr.

The equivalent 2500 models I looked at were typically 2200 payload. Whatever. I'd add airbags if I had to, like I did on our prior 3/4 ton diesel. Payload spec is a nothingburger when the difference is a set of rear springs and a door sticker. 10,000 GVWR is an administrative derate on 3/4 ton diesels and has been for 20 years.
 
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yes... you have the Hemi... I think you can subtract about 500 lbs from the 2500 series if they have the Cummins...

More like over 1k pounds.

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I'm just saying there is no need to do this since the payload sticker already accounts for a full tank of fuel. This is a common misunderstanding and to me it seems like you're suggesting the payload doesn't include full tank of gas, which it does.

But yes a cat scale is the only way to know after you load up with cargo (and other features like bed liner if your truck did not include the feature when leaving the factory).

The problem is people want to squabble over a tank of gas on a 10k+ rig and neglect all the other stuff that gets added to a truck. Six pounds per gallon, 30 gallons is 180 pounds. If you're that close, you've got bigger problems.

It's a truck. If you think the 180 pounds of fuel matters...running boards, floor mats, wheels and tires, exhaust, bedliner, hitches, bed covers, racks, tools, recovery gear, and spare parts stuffed in every nook and cranny of the cab. It's a truck. The custom bits and gear dwarf any fuel tank calculus you set out to perform.

On our last truck, I swapped the factory 26 gallon tank for a 62 gallon model. The truck, sitting in the driveway, was 900 pounds shy of GVWR. Just the truck with a full tank and all the gear and hardware that constituted typical packout. Add three humans, a dog, and the fifth wheel...go camping.
 
Nice truck! I like the vinyl seats and steel wheels. That will be a strong truck for a long time. Check up on the known weak points and get it oil coated. Good luck with it!
 
@dja4260 any more updates? We might be buying a truck in the near future and I'm seriously considering this. There's a couple relatively close to me optioned similarly with the exception of the 8.4 in screen that can be had for around 43k before ttl.

Also so if it comes with the 8.4-in screen it does have Android Auto?
 
@dja4260 any more updates? We might be buying a truck in the near future and I'm seriously considering this. There's a couple relatively close to me optioned similarly with the exception of the 8.4 in screen that can be had for around 43k before ttl.

Also so if it comes with the 8.4-in screen it does have Android Auto?
IIRC. yes. They dont make 10 different 8.4 screens. Every one I've seen has it.
 
@dja4260 any more updates? We might be buying a truck in the near future and I'm seriously considering this. There's a couple relatively close to me optioned similarly with the exception of the 8.4 in screen that can be had for around 43k before ttl.

Also so if it comes with the 8.4-in screen it does have Android Auto?

I just hit 2000 miles. Thus far I have zero complaints. Mine has just enough features to keep me satisfied. It pulls/tows really nice. Significant difference/improvement when compared to my 2014 Silverado. It has the power to do what I need and feels very grounded. Oil changes are simple too. It uses an odd oil spec so your options are limited. I have an apple phone and I'm able to plug it in via USB or bluetooth. The Uconnect works fairly well and I wish that I had the 8.4''in screen...

I don't regret my purchase as of yet.

Anything in particular you'd like me to touch on?
 
I just hit 2000 miles. Thus far I have zero complaints. Mine has just enough features to keep me satisfied. It pulls/tows really nice. Significant difference/improvement when compared to my 2014 Silverado. It has the power to do what I need and feels very grounded. Oil changes are simple too. It uses an odd oil spec so your options are limited. I have an apple phone and I'm able to plug it in via USB or bluetooth. The Uconnect works fairly well and I wish that I had the 8.4''in screen...

I don't regret my purchase as of yet.

Anything in particular you'd like me to touch on?

Hey thank you, that is super helpful. I like the packaging and the truck seems to be a good value. I've read of some issues with lifters on the 6.4 but seems very very random and not the norm necessarily.

Had also read something about harsh downshifts when coming to a stop, any thing like that happened on yours?
 
Hey thank you, that is super helpful. I like the packaging and the truck seems to be a good value. I've read of some issues with lifters on the 6.4 but seems very very random and not the norm necessarily.

Had also read something about harsh downshifts when coming to a stop, any thing like that happened on yours?
No, I find the 8 speed to be very smooth. It’s always where it needs to be from a gear perspective. There have been zero shifts of concern. It’s a sealed unit, which stinks for me as I’ll need to pay to have it serviced. Through my research, this ZF unit is stout. It must have an excellent trans cooler as in 100 degree temps, the trans sits at 167-170 degrees, regardless of load.

I know the lifters are a thing. I also know the failure rate is low. I see these motors sitting and idling all day, everyday for commercial use. I have to imagine the idle hours significantly increase the likelihood of an issue.
 
No, I find the 8 speed to be very smooth. It’s always where it needs to be from a gear perspective. There have been zero shifts of concern. It’s a sealed unit, which stinks for me as I’ll need to pay to have it serviced. Through my research, this ZF unit is stout. It must have an excellent trans cooler as in 100 degree temps, the trans sits at 167-170 degrees, regardless of load.

I know the lifters are a thing. I also know the failure rate is low. I see these motors sitting and idling all day, everyday for commercial use. I have to imagine the idle hours significantly increase the likelihood of an issue.
Incredibly helpful again I appreciate it sir! Happy to hear you're enjoying it 🙏
 
Today for no reason I received in the mail a Mopar pen of touchup paint. Unexpected and appreciated!

Also, last week I received a $50 check from the dealer for the review I left. Combine that with the $150 check I received from the dealer due to "overpaying" on my plate transfer fees (even though I agreed to an OTD price), I have some coin to put towards gas. Lord knows this thing sucks up the gas!
 
No, I find the 8 speed to be very smooth. It’s always where it needs to be from a gear perspective. There have been zero shifts of concern. It’s a sealed unit, which stinks for me as I’ll need to pay to have it serviced. Through my research, this ZF unit is stout. It must have an excellent trans cooler as in 100 degree temps, the trans sits at 167-170 degrees, regardless of load.

I know the lifters are a thing. I also know the failure rate is low. I see these motors sitting and idling all day, everyday for commercial use. I have to imagine the idle hours significantly increase the likelihood of an issue.

The lifter problems on both the 6.4 Hemi and the 7.3 Godzillas seem to come from extended idling, and this might also become an issue on the 6.6L L8T. The 6.4 seems to depend on oil being slung up to spots on the camshaft from the crank, so low speed idling causes oil starvation there. The other two engines have variable volume oil pumps that seem to produce lower pressures than needed at idle.

For a personal use truck, there is a lot less idling, so the chances of the problems coming up is somewhat lower.

As far as sealed transmissions go, they're eminently self-serviceable. I do drop-the-pan and drain and fill services on my Aisin/Toyota AB60F all the time (like 40k miles, we tow, a lot). I'd argue it's as easy or possibly easier than filling the old style transmissions through the dipstick tubes. The 10-speed transmissions on the Fords and GM HD trucks are also sealed AFAIK.
 
The lifter problems on both the 6.4 Hemi and the 7.3 Godzillas seem to come from extended idling, and this might also become an issue on the 6.6L L8T. The 6.4 seems to depend on oil being slung up to spots on the camshaft from the crank, so low speed idling causes oil starvation there. The other two engines have variable volume oil pumps that seem to produce lower pressures than needed at idle.
The camshaft and lifter are not lubricated by splash, there's a large chunk of the block in the way. They are oiled from the pressurized lifter bores where oil runs down the lifter body and onto the roller/lobe interface, which is typical for a modern roller engine.

The 6.4L, like the 5.7L and 6.2L experienced lifter material quality issues (and to a lesser extent camshaft core quality issues, since they are surface hardened, not billet) which resulted in the pin or roller developing a groove in it where the needles eventually catch and pile-up, seizing the roller, which then rapidly wears the camshaft and roller. The lifters were revised several times, most recently in 2018, which seems to have dramatically reduced the number of failures.

Because it's a materials problem (inadequate/inconsistent hardening) it's a time-based manifestation. Ergo, on an engine that sees a lot of highway miles, it's going to require significantly more miles for the surface to be breached than on an engine that idles a lot. Both accrue a similar number of hours but dramatically different mileage.
 
My family of 5 do alot of camping/travel. So far this year, we've slept in a camper for over 5 weeks. We just returned from a 14 day east coast trip. During this trip, my wife and I discussed the want for a larger camper with more space for our future trips, especially our longer duration travels. This upgrade has been on my mind for awhile now.

We discussed multiple camping options and settled on a few 5th wheel models that weigh anywhere from 7.5k-8.5k dry. These options will require a new tow vehicle, which brings me to this post.

I previously drove a 2014 Silverado, 2wd, 5.3, crew-cab with a towing capacity of 6800lbs and payload of 1900 lbs. The lower capacity reflects the 3.08 rear end.

During my search, I found a dealer in NC that maintained constant communication with me and answered all my requests via email. I was provided an OTD price that was very aggressive and not one dealer was able to come within 5k on the price for a similar vehicle. The selling dealer told me that due to the volume that they do, Stellantis gave them a limited number of vouchers they could apply to vehicles not selling... See: "Lots of new Ram trucks rotting on dealer lots it seems" Other dealers confirmed this voucher to be accurate, limited, and lucky for me... I left a $500 deposit with the agreement that I'd pick it up in two weeks after the trip we were currently on. The truck was detailed and waiting for me upon my agreed upon arrival. Side note, the other day I received a check from the dealer for the difference in the plate transfer cost ($110). My OTD price breakdown showed a $150 plate transfer fee. I was not expecting that! The negotiation that took place gained me an additional $100 off... I ended up paying 21% less than MSRP, OTD.

2024 RAM 2500, 4x4, crew-cab, 6'4 bed, 6.4 gas Hemi, Tradesman

My thoughts after 800 miles. I'm going to compare the truck directly to my old 2014 Silverado...

-I find the ride to be more firm and less forgiving. It isn't jarring but It feels much more "truck" like. Which makes sense as it's rated to tow 15,000lbs and has a payload capacity of 3,500 lbs.
-Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I LOVE the color and look of this truck. Wheels will be replaced after the OEM rubber needs replacement.
-The seats are like lazy boys and eat up alot of the feel from the firm ride.
-The truck ride greatly improved with the 5000lb camper behind it! I was super pleased.
-The transmission is awesome when compared to the sloppy shifting 6L80. It always seems to be where it needs to be.
-The trans must have a thermostat as the temp never moved from 168-170 degrees when towing in 100 degree heat and hilly roads.
-The motor doesn't mind to rev when going up big inclines, which is to be expected as a gasser.
-Unloaded on the highway, I get ~19mpg. Towing I saw ~9-10mpg, which is the same as my Silverado.
-The built-in brake controller is refreshing and very user friendly.
-I like the dash layout, info options, gauges. TPMS, very user friendly
-The dash screen is small but provides two different hitch backup view/angles.
-I prefer the manual 4wd engagement. It's simple and takes 3 seconds to complete the process. 4wLO is impressive!
-I like the look of the two-tone vinyl seats. They look like leather as confirmed by multiple buddies.
-The vinyl seats get HOT in the sun.
-I love the plastic floors. It came with full rubber floor mats which keeps the mess at bay. Cleaning up my kids mess is a breeze!
-The mirrors pull out and have two way power adjustment.
-I dislike the MDS. It can feel it kick in/out. I disable it every time I start the truck.
-It doesn't have apple carplay. I may swap to the 8.4''in screen if I find one cheap in the future. It should be plug and play...
-The trans doesn't have a dip stick!
-It uses a 0w-40 oil, which doesn't leave me with many options!

Overall I'm very pleased with the truck. It tows extremely well. It was at a price point that I was comfortable with and I don't feel that I'm lacking any creature comforts, as of yet. It feels planted and safe with my 3 kids in the back. I'm pretty simple with it comes to my vehicles so this checks all the boxes. I hope to give it to my son, who is 3.

I added wheel to wheel running boards, rollup tonneau cover, rubber bed mat, and a back step (thank you Amazon). I'll Line-x the bed after I put the pucks in for our future 5th wheel.

I'll be changing the oil at 1,000 miles and have a Fumoto valve on hand to install...I plan on 5k mile oil changes with Mobil 1 as that's what Walmart sells in 15 quart bundles for $75...

Cheers

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Congrats on the new truck! My last truck was a 2015 Ram 2500, was a good truck.

NYH.
 
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