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2024 Landcruiser
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Broke a CV axle - 17:50-17:55.
Front wasn't even locked.
Last time I saw that was on JEEP Wrangler in deep snow. Had to pull him out with Tiguan.
Broke a CV axle - 17:50-17:55.
Front wasn't even locked.
Most who are experienced in driving 4wd trails, know that if you're in a situation like that where the tires are digging in, you aren't going anywhere, the tires are grabbing and releasing with lots of torque passing through the drivetrain, you'll likely break something if you don't ease off the throttle and reassess the situation. Lower the tire pressure, get tires with more aggressive tread which can grip without slipping, or find an easier trail for what you have.
I'd call that mostly driver error.
Needs a V8 it's a Land cruiser after all.
Good on Toyota for fixing it under warranty (whether that had to do with his social media presence?, I don’t know).
Maybe it’s just a supplier metal hardening issue? I don’t love that it happened if I owned one, especially knowing how tough the older Toyotas were. Getting stuck on the trail stinks whether the driver was a doofus or not. I wouldn’t expect that thing to pop like that on that incline.
Was all that oil on the ground from the diff? CV joints have some grease but I wouldn’t think it’d all leak out from the diff. Admittedly, I don’t have a ton of experience with that setup on an off-roader though.
Maybe it’s just a supplier metal hardening issue? I don’t love that it happened if I owned one, especially knowing how tough the older Toyotas were. Getting stuck on the trail stinks whether the driver was a doofus or not. I wouldn’t expect that thing to pop like that on that incline.
Was all that oil on the ground from the diff? CV joints have some grease but I wouldn’t think it’d all leak out from the diff. Admittedly, I don’t have a ton of experience with that setup on an off-roader though.
I've seen other vehicles in same situation that don't break them. Hard to say.
Jury still out on current gen LC/4Runner. Engine should be good. AT seems OK but unproven long term especially in off-road situations. Some reviewers have complained about cheap interior material quality. That doesn't necessarily mean it's poor quality though. Time will tell.
I really don't know if Toyota build quality is any better than the rest of the competition. I think overall reliability still favors Toyota. When looking at mid-size trucks, I think the Colorado (3rd gen) has very good build quality. Truck feels very solid and well put together. I've seen several accounts of people going from current gen Tacoma to Colorado and liking it a lot more.
Jury still out on current gen LC/4Runner. Engine should be good. AT seems OK but unproven long term especially in off-road situations. Some reviewers have complained about cheap interior material quality. That doesn't necessarily mean it's poor quality though. Time will tell.
I really don't know if Toyota build quality is any better than the rest of the competition. I think overall reliability still favors Toyota. When looking at mid-size trucks, I think the Colorado (3rd gen) has very good build quality. Truck feels very solid and well put together. I've seen several accounts of people going from current gen Tacoma to Colorado and liking it a lot more.
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I’m in a 24 Tacoma hybrid. Same drivetrain and probably chassis in general. Mine has had a couple of teething pains but I gotta admit it’s a great driver. It’s been on raw land (not trails) and it scrambles up and through cr-p really well. I’m really, really liking the driveline feel… they have dialed it in nicely.
I have had 2 notable issues.
1. Died in middle of interstate and lit up like a Christmas tree and wouldnt restart. Dealer saw the “general engine error” in the data logs but found no cause and gave it back. I was furious… it was brand new. It’s not done it since.
2. I had a bunch of missed, rough, or crude shifts. I found it 1.5 quarts low, refilled with amsoil and a partial dose of lubegaurd red, and it’s been flawless.
Almost #3. I had one OCI where either it made oil or I overfilled it. It’s been rock solid since then.
I suspect … on #1, there is one post on the far edge of the internet where another owner had the exact same issues under the same temperature and weather conditions - bad connection on a rainy day on the grill shutters canbus connection. Exact same errors and behavior. Which then raises a point that the Achilles heal of this genre of vehicle may not be iron but may be the absurd complexity of the massive reliance on canbus. Basically, water gets in the grill shutters connection and the truck cant go. Thats a 4x4 nightmare.
But the iron? The dash is rigid, if not over stylized. Nothing squeaks or rattles. The seats are firmly attached and do not flex. The chassis is rigid and doesn’t appear to flex much at all. Theres a lot of metal where plastic would have been easier to mold. Otoh, like everything else today, sheet metal is thin, front end is all plastic, safety scores for a full-on front collision aren’t great, a hallmark for a lot of these midsize trucks.
It seems like the Toyota market research has heard the complaint that their designs are old and boring, unlike the US brands, and they tried to catch up by hiring last years wrangler interns. It’s a bit much - I think the interior in mind is quality enough in that it’s silent with zero squeaks/rattles, but it’s highly branded and a little excessive.
All that to say, glitches aside, the real indicator of quality in this one will be 10 years out. I was initially very upset for early surprises for what I paid, but as it’s starting to settle out, its demonstrating some desirable traits.
Back OT
LC is a LOT of money, for an under-designed interior filled with plastic, similar to the 4 runner, and also similar to the Tacoma. The three are similar vehicles with a different form factor. They do look cool, but if my taco seemed overpriced for what I got, the LC is simply without reason other than simply having a real want for that vehicle. Get one when it’s 2 years old for 20k less.
Oh, and the hybrid feel, it’s really good. I owned a similarly architected X3e for a week, and Toyota did a good job, it kicks in and out and supplements in and out with the turbo spool time well.
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Going on 45K miles on our 2024 LC. Overall, it has been exactly what I expected and hoped for; a well-built, high quality, relatively painless to own appliance.
I have not seriously offroaded it, but it's been fine. The combo of the vehicle in 4 low and Michelin Defender LTX M/S2's is probably the best I've had in heavy snow on unplowed roads, demonstrated when I had to rescue Mom and then get to our Cape house during our Governor's travel ban after the generator shut down this past winter.
Towing is another matter as I have posted about. The hauling part is not a problem although I do notice the brakes, while certainly safe, are not as effective as my past Range Rovers when towing the same loads. The problem is disabling the various safety and drivers aid nannies when you have a trailer. I won't rehash, but you can find gripes all over the 'net.
Basic servicing is easy; oil, air, cabin and high voltage battery filters. The oil service is "easier" or better said as less painful than sitting in the carnival of a dealer's waiting room or arranging rides.
As noted the interior is spartan, plasticky (but at least high quality appearing and feeling plastic), devoid of any real style but logically laid out with actual switches for key controls. No squeaks or rattles. The cloth seats are comfortable, but not especially supportive, OK overall, but the cloth is very durable and extremely easy to clean like for example when the Pup got a hold of a vanilla Tootsie Roll. Much easier to clean than leather and other fabrics we've had. Car has developed the universal Toyota interior smell but a dash of Ozium deals with that. The noticeable wind noise from the elephant ear mirrors is a very minor gripe.
Mileage is odd. While I do not monitor actual mileage, I do usually drive in eco mode and do keep the range display on. Highest summer range at fill-up has gone from under 300 when new to a high of ~330. The vehicle has an extremely small fuel tank.
For us, it works. I need my DD to be a reliable, flexible tool that I still like and I do like the looks of the LC. All being said, I will probably go to a Defender after this.
I have not seriously offroaded it, but it's been fine. The combo of the vehicle in 4 low and Michelin Defender LTX M/S2's is probably the best I've had in heavy snow on unplowed roads, demonstrated when I had to rescue Mom and then get to our Cape house during our Governor's travel ban after the generator shut down this past winter.
Towing is another matter as I have posted about. The hauling part is not a problem although I do notice the brakes, while certainly safe, are not as effective as my past Range Rovers when towing the same loads. The problem is disabling the various safety and drivers aid nannies when you have a trailer. I won't rehash, but you can find gripes all over the 'net.
Basic servicing is easy; oil, air, cabin and high voltage battery filters. The oil service is "easier" or better said as less painful than sitting in the carnival of a dealer's waiting room or arranging rides.
As noted the interior is spartan, plasticky (but at least high quality appearing and feeling plastic), devoid of any real style but logically laid out with actual switches for key controls. No squeaks or rattles. The cloth seats are comfortable, but not especially supportive, OK overall, but the cloth is very durable and extremely easy to clean like for example when the Pup got a hold of a vanilla Tootsie Roll. Much easier to clean than leather and other fabrics we've had. Car has developed the universal Toyota interior smell but a dash of Ozium deals with that. The noticeable wind noise from the elephant ear mirrors is a very minor gripe.
Mileage is odd. While I do not monitor actual mileage, I do usually drive in eco mode and do keep the range display on. Highest summer range at fill-up has gone from under 300 when new to a high of ~330. The vehicle has an extremely small fuel tank.
For us, it works. I need my DD to be a reliable, flexible tool that I still like and I do like the looks of the LC. All being said, I will probably go to a Defender after this.
The full-time 4wd with torsen center diff is a nice thing to have for all bad weather situations. Thanks for sharing your experience, sounds like the LC is holding well for you.
I think some think plastic = cheap and I'm not sure that's entirely true. Some plastic interiors can hold up quite well.
Yes, but......they are very much overbuilt. Much different than the American Sequoia in frame and suspension. I wish I had bought a 200 series in 2020. Likely one of the best made vehicles overall.
Never had one, until a few years ago I bought a 09 Lx570 in excellent shape. Over the last year I have examined many things about them, and understand why they are so coveted. Perfect, no, but very well put together, high quality materials throuout.
