2024 Landcruiser

[meep]

Has anyone driven a turbo from toyota besides the tundra? I was very interested in the Lexus gs200t, as I didn’t need the power of the v6 in the 350 and frankly like the lower rpm torque of turbos. i searched the internet on occasion and right as I reached the end of it, I found one post with an owner that said he liked his 200t and it was just fine. Even bitog frowned on it, and we like brown station wagons. All this to say, I’m not sure if toyota has had as much experience with “boost life” in gassers than VW, ford, Volvo and other brands.

(this thinking suggests a respect-nod to Honda, who’s had about the same experience with them, and I can attest that, internet-wrangling aside, our experience with their 1.5T was top-notch, an exceptionally driveable engine in all circumstances.)

my two turbos have been a Volvo and the 2.7 ecoboost. The Volvo was without flaw, the ecoboost has been almost flawless. im feeling like I got a little lucky. Earlier today I looked at the mpg figures for ford’s hybrid 3.5, and it was exactly 1 mpg better than what I’m getting now - I feel like I got pretty lucky here.

so, wrapping up, toyota may have to play catch-up. Seems like they could hire some retiring Swedes, but from a purely speculative position I could see work cultures broadening that gap.

 

[t1snwrbrdr12]

Has anyone driven a turbo from toyota besides the tundra? I was very interested in the Lexus gs200t, as I didn’t need the power of the v6 in the 350 and frankly like the lower rpm torque of turbos. i searched the internet on occasion and right as I reached the end of it, I found one post with an owner that said he liked his 200t and it was just fine. Even bitog frowned on it, and we like brown station wagons. All this to say, I’m not sure if toyota has had as much experience with “boost life” in gassers than VW, ford, Volvo and other brands.

(this thinking suggests a respect-nod to Honda, who’s had about the same experience with them, and I can attest that, internet-wrangling aside, our experience with their 1.5T was top-notch, an exceptionally driveable engine in all circumstances.)

my two turbos have been a Volvo and the 2.7 ecoboost. The Volvo was without flaw, the ecoboost has been almost flawless. im feeling like I got a little lucky. Earlier today I looked at the mpg figures for ford’s hybrid 3.5, and it was exactly 1 mpg better than what I’m getting now - I feel like I got pretty lucky here.

so, wrapping up, toyota may have to play catch-up. Seems like they could hire some retiring Swedes, but from a purely speculative position I could see work cultures broadening that gap.

I’ve driven a new Highlander 2.4turbo and it was nice. Couldn’t really tell it was a turbo…no whistling, no lag, smooth power band. It was adequate. Felt like less low end than our old 3.5v6 Toyota, but it was adequate in the Highlander. We were skeptical if it’d be enough for the grand Highlander, which is why we were driving it, but we went back to the minivan life as opposed to waiting for a grand highlander to come out.

 

[HoosierJeeper]

Becuase solid axles handle like crap (while being great offroad!) and most folks buying this are driving on the road. You can get to anywhere you need with an IFS vehicle.

Having lots of experience off road with both, I definitely prefer a solid front axle. My JLU handles just fine on road (no one is going to autocross this or a Wrangler, buy a BMW for that!), but off road is so much better. Much more stable and planted feeling. When you mix IFS with a solid rear axle, things get tippy very fast. I would rather have independent all the way around. Being able to keep more wheels on the ground with a solid front axle versus IFS can be the difference of getting over something or not. Plus, with IFS, the ground clearance isn't constant.

 

[Bob in Utah]

My choice would be the older 200 series

To upgrade from my 100-150 series 'Yota's

In SLC.......?

This is the 'Cruiser Place'

You may or may not have known of it

https://landcruiserhm.com/museum-collection/virtual-tour

 

[goingplacesanddoingstuff]

I love the new Land Cruiser. I wish they would have done this 5 years ago.

Mild hybrid + turbo is perfect for my high elevation use cases.

 

[goingplacesanddoingstuff]

What issues? So no na engines have issues?

This. BITOG is funny.

BITOG is cheap.

 

[edyvw]

I love the new Land Cruiser. I wish they would have done this 5 years ago.

Mild hybrid + turbo is perfect for my high elevation use cases.

I think for this particular vehicle, no hybrid version would be better. Less complex. Will see, I am still having issue seeing how this plays out in Toyota lineup considering 4Runner.

 

[goingplacesanddoingstuff]

I think for this particular vehicle, no hybrid version would be better. Less complex. Will see, I am still having issue seeing how this plays out in Toyota lineup considering 4Runner.

My last uber from the airport was a Prius with 220,000 miles. I think it'll be fine.

 

[edyvw]

I’ve driven a new Highlander 2.4turbo and it was nice. Couldn’t really tell it was a turbo…no whistling, no lag, smooth power band. It was adequate. Felt like less low end than our old 3.5v6 Toyota, but it was adequate in the Highlander. We were skeptical if it’d be enough for the grand Highlander, which is why we were driving it, but we went back to the minivan life as opposed to waiting for a grand highlander to come out.

There is power in 3.5 2GR-FKS? That is one of the few engines where you can actually feel waste of displacement.
2.4T is step forward in every aspect over previous V6.
What you experienced is probably bit of turbo lag.

 

[edyvw]

My last uber from the airport was a Prius with 220,000 miles. I think it'll be fine.

Yeah, Prius is not designed for this. If people utilize it in a way they advertise vehicle. Also, that battery is taking huge chunk of space.

 

[goingplacesanddoingstuff]

Yeah, Prius is not designed for this. If people utilize it in a way they advertise vehicle. Also, that battery is taking huge chunk of space.

Not designed for what?

 

[goingplacesanddoingstuff]

I think for this particular vehicle, no hybrid version would be better. Less complex. Will see, I am still having issue seeing how this plays out in Toyota lineup considering 4Runner.

4Runner is smaller.

 

[edyvw]

Not designed for what?

Off roading. It takes a lot of space, it drastically increases weight, it exposes to vulnerabilities to get damaged.
Unless Toyota is betting that only few people would do serious off roading. I like concept, but only ICE option would be more attractive, turbo, of course.

 

[edyvw]

4Runner is smaller.

LC doesn’t have 3rd row. How smaller? If new 4Runner keeps same dimensions as old, which is unlikely, people will cross shop

 

[totegoat]

Nice rig but I don't need one.

 

[We're Metals]

I will be buying one of these.

 

[drtyler]

Pricing announced. Base starts $55,950 plus destination fees. It will be interesting to see how high the initial demand is and dealer markups to sticker price. With all the new Broncos on the road now, the demand may not be as high?

https://www.toyota.com/landcruiser/

 

[cptbarkey]

As much as I am a Toyota fan, the INEOS Grenadier is more interesting to me at that price point.

 

[14.1 Grms]

Pricing announced. Base starts $55,950 plus destination fees. It will be interesting to see how high the initial demand is and dealer markups to sticker price. With all the new Broncos on the road now, the demand may not be as high?

Welp...$71k with a few options. No thanks. Was thinking about looking at one next year in this but not remotely interested in insane Tacoma pricing for something I'm supposed to be offroading with.

 

[Snagglefoot]

Turbocharged four cylinder hybrid. We may have glimpsed the future as Toyota sees it. They will have a lot of support from the oil industry.