2024 Honda Odyssey

My son has a 2016 Odyssey bought new. His transmission began to shudder a little at ~80K. The Honda shop changed the fluid and did some reprogramming. Been good since then. I installed a VCM muzzler a year ago because of a CEL and excessive oil consumption. That's about all the issues it has had. Has 100K now. I've driven it several times. Not my flavor but then I don't have three young kids and a dog to schlep around.

It is a very good family van.
Different engine and trans now.
 
The engine is pretty new. We have one and it was my main concern (being new) but engine has been fine.

The trans has been used awhile - a Honda 10 speed. I’d have more confidence if it were a ZF personally, but the older odyssey with the zf 9 speed has tons of complaints. I’ve read that it isn’t breaking down necessarily, that software updates should fix it, but if you’re buying new you don’t have to worry about the zf 9 speed issues.

Guys have the 10speed in the 2.0 turbo accords and they’re flying with them, hopping up the engines and running super fast 1/4 times with stock 10 speed trans. They seem to be durable. But then again, Honda always seems to have “fixed their v6 transmission issues” and then they begin failing just out of warranty.

I had a ton of rattles and fit finish issues. Our selling dealer was helpful and took all my concerns seriously, but still took months to fix them all. It was surprising to me that Honda corporate took notice of how much my brand new car was in the shop. They took it upon themselves to send a regional field engineer and manager out to try to get it fixed right / encourage the dealer to get it right. I never complained to the corporate level until all was repaired, and I more called to try to get them to give me an extended warranty for the time and hassle and lost confidence in the car. They flat out wouldn’t do anything for me, unfortunately.
 
We are a growing family and want a larger vehicle to fit car seats and such. The minivan segment is ruled by just 4 nameplates - Chrysler, Honda, Kia, and Toyota. We have a family GM discount ….so we test drove a Traverse. After we drove the minivans we knew it was the way to go with kiddos. Those sliding doors are fantastic. Honda and Toyota it is then…

Today we looked at the 2024 Honda Odyssey and the 2023 Toyota Sienna. We loved the Odyssey. We did not like the Sienna. I know Toyota is king reliability wise but we did not like the vehicle at all.

All of the Odyssey trims come standard with the V6 280HP and 10 speed automatic transmission. Anyone have any insight into the reliability on these engines and transmissions? It looks like the engine class has been around for a while. Not crazy about it having a timing belt. Google search shows that the transmission on these may be the weak spot?

We would like to keep this vehicle LONG term - 10+ years. Mileage would probably be around 10k/yr since it would be primarily a family vehicle.

Thanks for any input or suggestions.

The Traverse is one of the worst brand new cars available, unless you are a die-hard GM fan that can't drive anything else, pretty much all other 3-row entries are better. They finally decided to update it for next year, let's see how that performs.

Odyssey is great, you are just not getting the newest platform, it shows its age in the interior especially the infotainment screen, as long as you are okay with that it is the right choice to keep it for 10+ years. Transmission issues were all solved when they switched to 10 speed built in house. First few years they used 9-speed ZF in lower trims then switched to 10-speed since 2020.

Yes, timing belt is a lot of work, but it is every 10 years and 100k miles, so you worry about it in 10 years based on the mileage you're planning to put. It offers the most comfortable ride in its class, but it feels like a mini school bus when you drive it.

I'd also recommend checking the KIA Carnival, it feels more like a crossover behind the steering wheel (I drove them all), a little bit better low end torque, much better infotainment system, lower MSRP (at least in Canada) and they come with 10-year powertrain warranty in the States. Wouldn't recommend a Pacifica for 10+ year long term ownership.
 
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Odyssey got the DOHC in 2023 and I think Acura v6 models got it a year or two prior but I could be wrong. I don’t think 2023 was the first year of the DOHC though, just the first year Honda used it.
 
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The Sienna felt cheaper than the Dodge Caliber I had, which is objectively a godawful car.

The difference is that the Caliber actually is a godawful car, and the Pacifica is even worse :poop:

The Sienna will last a long long time with no problems and have the least cost to keep running. For the OP's stated goals, the Sienna is the best choice :)
 
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The 2023 Pilot got the new DOHC.
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Oh, could’ve sworn I read that but I guess I’m wrong. Maybe I’m confusing it since we also shopped the pilot at the same time before the wife realized the minivan still makes the most sense.
 
Oh, could’ve sworn I read that but I guess I’m wrong. Maybe I’m confusing it since we also shopped the pilot at the same time before the wife realized the minivan still makes the most sense.
Nigh. One can even build a new 2024 Ody on the site and it’s still SOHC engine.
 
Take into consideration several things before you pull the trigger:
1. Yes, sliding doors are excellent! But, kids grow fast, and you are stuck with sliding doors.
2. Are you going to travel long distances? Road trips? National parks? Think about this. If vehicle is around town, whatever , good choice. If you plan some road trips like National parks etc. than think about AWD and clearance. I got rid of my Sienna AWD bcs. low clearance. Van’s are good space wise, but you are stuck on road, paved road. I don’t mean here some serious off roading. But I decided to get rid of Sienna when I couldn’t go to visit Escalante caves in Utah bcs. clearance on some gravel road.
Once kids are out of strollers and that junk, average SUV with maybe Yakima on the roof is all you need.
Are you into biking? If you are, you will need bike rack on the hitch. Good luck going down the sidewalk and not scraping it.
Other than that, around town, malls, trip from town to tow, yes, they are more practical.
Sienna is one that has AWD. It is hybrid and rear axle is driven by separate motors (horrible AWD when it comes to effectiveness, but for simple things it is fine). But I can see why you didn’t like it. I rented it on Turo to check it, and IMO grossly underpowered, and that is before loaded.
So, IMO Honda is best option if you decide minivan.

they make lift kits for the Sienna ;)


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Mini van is king for kids in everyday life. No worries about slamming that wide opening rear door into the vehicle next to you (maybe even your own in the garage). It’s also easier to get the carry click in infant car seats in and or having to buckle your child for the next couple years in the convertible car seat.

like mentioned that’s only a season in life. Once the kids get somewhat older they should have more control over the door issues.

But definitely nothing wrong with rocking a minivan for 10-12 years or so of the kids growing up then moving on. You don’t want something too nice because the kids will likely trash it anyways somehow some way

They are likely the best value for the $ if you cross shop 3 row suvs.
 
Honda V6 is great motor! One nasty part is maintenance and timing belt replacement that is still due on my Pilot with 114k.

Waiting for a friend who does side work to do his own Odyssey soon to get experience to perform mine and evaluate if he is up for the task.
 
Is it still the j series sohc engine? Those timing belts are really easy, and the engines do great when they're not forced to misfire.
Yes. The 2024 is still the SOHC. There’s speculation the new DOHC will make its way in 2025 or 2026.
 
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