2022 wrx

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

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I'd be using a Euro spec oil in that car. Mobil 1 0w40, Castrol 0w40, Valvoline Euro 5w40, etc. Anything with the Porsche A40 spec. That's what all the guys run who beat the snot out of these cars, and the used oil analysis on this site prove it to be a good choice. 0w20 is spec'd so Subaru can meet CAFE requirements to squeak out every bit of fuel economy.

 

[Bullwinkle007]

It is from old days of VW EA113 engines that had fuel dilution issues. Rotella was thick, so there were less issues around shearing. Also, it was readily available. So, it kind of became popular in tuning world. BMW N54 crowd started to use and they were pushing sometimes 900-950hp. It just trickled down to everyone else.
Those are old numbers. Rotella got thinner, and for ZDDP, all full SAPS euro oils are in that range.

When I look at the euro manuals for my Honda /Acura engines. Manual calls for acea a/3 API. Tells me that Honda engines like zddp. I agree,that's why I run euro oil and they run way smoother with it

 

[bluesubie]

I know sub guys like rotella T-6 5/40 and great results.

In the older EJ25x engines, not in the FA20/24 DIT engines. The original post is about the FA24 Direct Injection Turbo. RT6 5W-30MV is probably fine and there is a good uoa on it in from a Forester 2.0DIT in the uoa forum.

People on BITOG need to be careful of folks just tossing oils out there as if serious recommendations.

You think?

 

[Tifosi]

Please, don’t think we are privileged that you woke up this morning.
We gave you advice. Seek attention elsewhere. By now you could change oil and let us know how is it going.

Can't find it, can you? The answer is simple, because I didn't ask for any advice here in this thread regarding the WRX. You really need to at least try to keep a better track of who you are exchanging posts with.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Not that anyone asked , but a general comment.

M1 0W30 is a "high performance" lubricant only in regard to providing improved cold start and warm-up performance in a 30 grade lubricant. It's compromised due to it's winter rating. I would avoid M1 AFE in the 2.4.

Instead, I would run Subaru excellent 5W30 (Idemitsu) and run it in "secret" for warranty purposes. This will give you the increase MOFT you seek.
If having an indie garage change the oil, purchase and have recepits for a 0W20 and use it something else - or return it at a later date.

I would also seek out the JDM Roki oil filter as they are vastly superior to the Fram "painted blue can" the Subaru USA parts dept. will sell you. Filter quality is very, very important.

- Ken

 

[Tifosi]

What is the main concern when it comes to choosing an oil to use? If people want added engine protection from wear (probably about everyone's "concern"), go up a grade ... tribology says so (higher HTHS and higher MOFT means more wear protection headroom). For the OP, the manual even says a 5W-30 can be used, and that statement to change it back to 0W-20 is a CAFE driven statement that Subaru needs to say to be good CAFE players.

Agreed on all points. But one of the main issues that most people run into and a most often given advice on this topic is "Use what's in the manual" for warranty reason with User Vermess being one of them if you are following his posts. And I agree with him, and normally, I would do the same. But in some situations, I would deviate from that guideline. And unless I am mistaken, I do believe that most, if not all, manufactures will give an alternative oil weight to be used in case of an emergency, at least that's how I interpret it. I think most of us will agree that a big part of it is because of CAFE but I don't believe any manufacture ever came out and admitted it.

 

[Tifosi]

Not that anyone asked , but a general comment.

M1 0W30 is a "high performance" lubricant only in regard to providing improved cold start and warm-up performance in a 30 grade lubricant. It's compromised due to it's winter rating. I would avoid M1 AFE in the 2.4.

Instead, I would run Subaru excellent 5W30 (Idemitsu) and run it in "secret" for warranty purposes. This will give you the increase MOFT you seek.
If having an indie garage change the oil, purchase and have recepits for a 0W20 and use it something else - or return it at a later date.

I would also seek out the JDM Roki oil filter as they are vastly superior to the Fram "painted blue can" the Subaru USA parts dept. will sell you. Filter quality is very, very important.

- Ken

Interesting POV, something to think about.

Subaru still uses the Roki filter on the 2.4 here in the US.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Interesting POV, something to think about.

Subaru still uses the Roki filter on the 2.4 here in the US.

Is the Roki avaliable at the Subaru Parts counter? I know Japan-built cars come with Roki from the factory.

If so, I might grab one for the wife's new upcoming Crosstrek

 

[TiGeo]

People on BITOG need to be careful of folks just tossing oils out there as if serious recommendations.

I always kinda figured "internet forums rules apply" which means....as always...buyer beware taking advice or recommendations from forums.

 

[bluesubie]

Is the Roki avaliable at the Subaru Parts counter? I know Japan-built cars come with Roki from the factory.

If so, I might grab one for the wife's new upcoming Crosstrek

No. Only from the factory.

 

[Pablo]

I always kinda figured "internet forums rules apply" which means....as always...buyer beware taking advice or recommendations from forums.

Well I can only hope all people are so discerning. Seems like a couple people here just write brand names for who knows what reasons. I mean the oils might be GREAT oils, but for XYZ application? Hole chute, sometimes NOT.

 

[edyvw]

Can't find it, can you? The answer is simple, because I didn't ask for any advice here in this thread regarding the WRX. You really need to at least try to keep a better track of who you are exchanging posts with.

Is this you?

Just added a 2022 WRX to my stable, considering switching to Mobil 1 0W-30 AFE. With the engine being a forced induction engine, 0W-20 makes me a little nervous. And before anyone ask, I am not an engineer nor do I know more than Subaru engineers when it comes to their vehicles.

Obviously, you cannot make a decision. Just drive it to dealership.

 

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

Is the Roki avaliable at the Subaru Parts counter? I know Japan-built cars come with Roki from the factory.

If so, I might grab one for the wife's new upcoming Crosstrek

No. Only from the factory.

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Suba...5&sprefix=subaru+a30+oil+flter,aps,185&sr=8-8

There has been reference about "old Subarus" vs new Subarus. One thing I found in my research: This filter will fit both EJ and FA engines? There are "a few," it won't work on an EJ253 because the exhaust manifold prevents installation of the "fat" oil filter which is the Made In Japan Tokyo Roki black one (There is also an A170? Larger blue one, A15, there are a few) - POINT the oil FILTERS I believe are mostly all interchangeable and you can use newer filter on older Subaru engine.

Point was made the DIT engines (FA, Direct Injection Turbo) maybe not liking a high SAPS oil. How would one know unless they read that here. This is why we are here.

 

[PF52]

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Suba...5&sprefix=subaru+a30+oil+flter,aps,185&sr=8-8

Will that fit on a 2022? I bought the 15208AA170 filter for mine but mine is a 2021.

 

[TiGeo]

That's it...Liquimoly Molygen 5W30 is the way to go here....hell they make the Predator Blood green blend in a 0W20! Also for no reason a pic of one of my favorite cars, my '89 Subaru 4x4 wagon "touring" trim with the most underpowered engine I've ever had the pleasure of driving. Pretty sure I ran Castrol GTX 10W30 in it and it got jumped and dogged offroad and never quit.

In before lock.

 

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

Will that fit on a 2022? I bought the 15208AA170 filter for mine but mine is a 2021.

The xxA130 filter appears to be spec'd for an FB25. It seems to be spec'd for a BRZ and Forester. Seems to be listed $7.85 at a dealer. https://parts.subaru.com/p/Subaru__/Engine-Oil-Filter/49227638/15208AA130.html

You maybe have an FA series engine? The xx170 filter seems to be for it. What I am doing right now is looking for discrepancies. Says fits BRZ and WRX. $8.28
https://parts.subaru.com/p/Subaru__/OIL-FILTER-COMPLETE/60014672/15208AA170.html

Subaru has this thing about bypass pressure ... 23psi.. any OE Subaru filter should be that.. again, even if you've got an EJ. Maybe even an EZ but that's branching off a bit. There are even larger blue filters as mentioned but they aren't Rokis. So bringing it back to what was asked, background information provided.

I'm just not seeing any differences here, except claims the 15208AA170 has more filter media despite smaller size. The 15208AA130 seems physically larger.

I'd run it. I'm not seeing anything saying it won't work on yours. If anyone knows anything to the contrary regarding Subaru 15208AA130 and Subaru 15208AA170 oil filter please chime in, though maybe that a better thread in Engine Oil Filters.

And unless you've got something physically blocking it like an exhaust manifold to where it cannot take the "fat" filter (the 15208AA130 is stubby and stout, much like a Purolator BOSS though having nothing in common with it, just a reference) you should be okay.

I'll ask someone later as a follow-up that eats lives and breathes Subarus in Texas but I don't think anything I have stated is wrong, again, if it is, we can accept correction.

I'd run it.

TiGeo

@TiGeo Is that a GL10?

 

[TiGeo]

The xxA130 filter appears to be spec'd for an FB25. It seems to be spec'd for a BRZ and Forester. Seems to be listed $7.85 at a dealer. https://parts.subaru.com/p/Subaru__/Engine-Oil-Filter/49227638/15208AA130.html

You maybe have an FA series engine? The xx170 filter seems to be for it. What I am doing right now is looking for discrepancies. Says fits BRZ and WRX. $8.28
https://parts.subaru.com/p/Subaru__/OIL-FILTER-COMPLETE/60014672/15208AA170.html

Subaru has this thing about bypass pressure ... 23psi.. any OE Subaru filter should be that.. again, even if you've got an EJ. Maybe even an EZ but that's branching off a bit. There are even larger blue filters as mentioned but they aren't Rokis. So bringing it back to what was asked, background information provided.

I'm just not seeing any differences here, except claims the 15208AA170 has more filter media despite smaller size. The 15208AA130 seems physically larger.

I'd run it. I'm not seeing anything saying it won't work on yours. If anyone knows anything to the contrary regarding Subaru 15208AA130 and Subaru 15208AA170 oil filter please chime in, though maybe that a better thread in Engine Oil Filters.

And unless you've got something physically blocking it like an exhaust manifold to where it cannot take the "fat" filter (the 15208AA130 is stubby and stout, much like a Purolator BOSS though having nothing in common with it, just a reference) you should be okay.

I'll ask someone later as a follow-up that eats lives and breathes Subarus in Texas but I don't think anything I have stated is wrong, again, if it is, we can accept correction.

I'd run it.



@TiGeo Is that a GL10?

No. GL. 4x4. 5 spd. It's the touring edition so had a raised roof.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Agreed on all points. But one of the main issues that most people run into and a most often given advice on this topic is "Use what's in the manual" for warranty reason with User Vermess being one of them if you are following his posts.

If the fear of the engine failing for whatever reason [1], and having the dealer deny warranty because the OM "recommend" (not "required") viscosity wasn't used , then by all means stick with the "recommended" viscosity to relieve mental stress and possible warranty chaos. I'd suggest getting the thickest 0W-20 with the highest HTHS viscosity available.

[1] Even if the reason of the engine failure had nothing to do with the oil viscosity used.

 

[ZeeOSix]

And unless I am mistaken, I do believe that most, if not all, manufactures will give an alternative oil weight to be used in case of an emergency, at least that's how I interpret it. I think most of us will agree that a big part of it is because of CAFE but I don't believe any manufacture ever came out and admitted it.

All Toyota OMs have a general statement to use higher viscosity oil for better protection when the vehicle is used in more severe conditions. They basically side-stepped CAFE with that general comment in the OM, leaving the viscosiy choice above the "recommended" viscosity up to the owner.

 

[PF52]

I'd run it. I'm not seeing anything saying it won't work on yours. If anyone knows anything to the contrary regarding Subaru 15208AA130 and Subaru 15208AA170 oil filter please chime in, though maybe that a better thread in Engine Oil Filters.

OK

I'm not really really trying to use that one, by the way. I have my stash of AA170 filters to last for the foreseeable future.