2021 Ram Ecodiesel MS-12992

[edyvw]

Plenty of Euros run high SAPS oils with DPFs. Volvo has used A5/B5 oils with DPF for years, so has Ford in Europe. DPFs survive just fine in those.

What are other “plenty?” Ford is not some "diesel name" in Europe. It was always there, but mediocre at best.
VW group (Seat/Skoda/VW/Audi/Porsche) has always used Mid-SAPS and Low-SAPS since the introduction of PD engines and later CR engines. BMW has used LL04 since 2004, MB since 2004, PSA and Renault have also used Low-SAPS since 2004, or the introduction of Ultra low sulphur diesel and with that DPF, Toyota and Honda, in their attempts to offer diesels, have also used C3 oils. Also, FIAT and later FCA, then Stellantis, use Low-SAPS oils. So "plenty" comes down to FORD/Volvo/Land Rover.
DPF does not have an unlimited lifespan. It eventually dies bcs. It gets clogged by sulfated ash, or in some cases cleaning can be done. Low-SAPS oils prolong that. So when you say "fine," you are basically saying that Ford/Volvo/Land Rover are OK with more sulfated ash in DPF. It is simple math. The question is: why do they need A5 oil? Full SAPS with lower HTHS instead of C2, C3 or C5 which would prolong DPF lifespan. Like the engine in question, oils are often a band-aid to certain issues.

 

[edyvw]

List from the EcoDiesel forum of oils

Mopar 68524020AA 5W-40 replaces 68231020AA
Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W-40
FRAM Full Synthetic Euro 5W-40
Quaker State Ultimate Durability EURO 5W-40
Valvoline Full Synthetic European Vehicle 5W-40
Havoline ProDS 5W-40
Castrol Edge Euro Car - 5W-40
Redline Full Synthetic 5W-40
Motul 8100 C-clean 5W-40
Motul 8100 X-cess 5W-40
Motul 8100 X-cess gen2 5W-40
TRIAX Euro LX 5W-40
TRIAX Euro Ultra VX 5W-40
Ravenol VST 5W-40
Total Quartz 9000 5W-40
ELF Evolution 900 SXR 5W-40
ELF Evolution 900 FT 5W-40
AMALIE Elixir Full Synthetic Euro 5W-40
Millers Oil Trident Fully Synthetic 5W-40
Millers Oils XF LONGLIFE 5W-40
MPT Thirty-K True Synthetic High Performance 5W-40
CAM2 Blue Blood Elite Euro 5W-40
FUCHS TITAN Supersyn SAE 5W-40
Lubrication Engineers 5w40 Monolec Ultra Syn Heavy Duty Engine Oil
REPSOL ELITE COSMOS HIGH PERFORMANCE 5W-40

One buys a problematic engine and then goes and buys a true scam.
Poor souls.

 

[Dr_Dr3i]

OP, I've got the same 3rd gen EcoD and I've used the QS Euro, the PP Euro that the dealers are supposed to use, and M1 Delvac ESP.

No issues running any of those (although the Delvac is not MS-12991), and currently running Chevron's Delo XSP.

I'm also GDE-tuned, so I am my own warranty - couldn't be bothered about the MS-12991 nonsense really as it's a material standard, not a stringent oil spec as such. FCA also requires it for their Fiat 124 Spyder, among others. Pretty sure it's not "the best" oil you can buy.

The Castrol Euro stuff is good, I'd use that if strict warranty adherence is a concern. I just wouldn't run it past 6-7K miles.

Head on over to ram1500diesel dot com for a LOT more EcoD specific discussion and info.

 

[Jetronic]

Plenty of Euros run high SAPS oils with DPFs. Volvo has used A5/B5 oils with DPF for years, so has Ford in Europe. DPFs survive just fine in those.

And I ran A3/B4 in my own (c2 specced) diesel aswell, without a single dpf or engine issue until it got totalled.

 

[stormcom]

I am going with Castro Euro and Valvoline if not available. Thank you everyone for the help and it has been an education.

 

[stormcom]

Well, I hit a snag. Went to order it and had 6 5 qt. ready to pay and Castrol popped up Castrol EDGE Euro 5W-40 Turbo Diesel. Now I don't know which to go with. I have a turbo 3.0 Eco Diesel. Sat on hold with Castrol for over an hour and hung up.

 

[JAG]

It’s good that you couldn’t order that Castrol 5W-40 oil. Castrol has cheapened out on that oil for well over two decades. Get this QS Euro 5W-40 while it is still available and for such a great price of $69 for 3 gallons. https://business.walmart.com/ip/Quaker-State-Euro-Full-Synthetic-5W-40-Motor-Oil-5-Quart/5213099247