2020 Frontier - Tires again

[tiger862]

As title states, it tire buying again. 2020 Frontier I purchased tires from Mavis last Sept called GreenMax 55k miles tires that are Mavis Tires. Come to find out no warranty if on LT. I now have 20k on them.
Let me clarify, I tried to get warranty and got the run around so I looked up warranty and it states right in warranty that Light Trucks are no warranty for tread life. I checked most other manufactures and same thing as wear increases with weight is all I can come up with. Also if you do delivery, commercial or rideshare no warranty for treadwear.
I just ordered Firestone LE3 for less than any other major brand. Got 4 tires for 630 if I am not mistaken, so it was a 100.00 cheaper from Walmart.com and will take a week to come in. I will get mounted and balance from some one else than Walmart. Let's hope I get longer than 10 months out of a set of tires.
Joys of 60% city and 40% highway

2020 Frontier
80100 miles

 

[dogememe]

10 months on a set of tires? That’s trash.

 

[Kira]

You're probably right, but you don't know how the OP drives nor how heavy his rig is.

 

[RooflessVW]

10 months on a set of tires? That’s trash.

Do tires wear with time?

 

[RBT]

This is pretty common for no-name tires. I would always try to find a first line tire on sale at a discounter like Walmart - Firestone is a perfectly good brand - rather than go with a knock off brand or some Chinese garbage. Ride quality often deteriorates quickly and proper balancing is almost impossible. My experience is based on having a number of unfortunate rental experiences (Enterprise and Hertz, surprisingly) with cars that had 30-40k miles and axles set wearing tire brands of questionable provenance (eg Ling Long, Nexen, etc.).

 

[tiger862]

You're probably right, but you don't know how the OP drives nor how heavy his rig is.

I deliver food. Between 100 and 150 miles a day. Truck bed is empty for the most part, however the most I had so far is 1000 lbs. Lots of in town driving with hwy mixed in.

 

[bullwinkle]

As title states, it tire buying again. 2020 Frontier I purchased tires from Mavis last Sept called GreenMax 55k miles tires that are Mavis Tires. Come to find out no warranty if on LT. I now have 20k on them.
Let me clarify, I tried to get warranty and got the run around so I looked up warranty and it states right in warranty that Light Trucks are no warranty for tread life. I checked most other manufactures and same thing as wear increases with weight is all I can come up with. Also if you do delivery, commercial or rideshare no warranty for treadwear.
I just ordered Firestone LE3 for less than any other major brand. Got 4 tires for 630 if I am not mistaken, so it was a 100.00 cheaper from Walmart.com and will take a week to come in. I will get mounted and balance from some one else than Walmart. Let's hope I get longer than 10 months out of a set of tires.
Joys of 60% city and 40% highway

2020 Frontier
80100 miles

That's pathetic-Door Dash in an (extremely light) Frontier hardly counts as LT use! It seems to me one would be better off watching FB Marketplace for a lightly used set or takeoffs in an actual LT and forgo the garbage warranty.

 

[tiger862]

That's pathetic-Door Dash in an (extremely light) Frontier hardly counts as LT use! It seems to me one would be better off watching FB Marketplace for a lightly used set or takeoffs in an actual LT and forgo the garbage warranty.

I just ordered Firestone Destination LE3. Guess what “No tread wear warranty”. Firestone website states rapid wear is not covered. All I can do is get a quality brand and see how it performs.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

20k is fair for cheap tires.

Are those Greenmax tires like off-road AT or MT tires? Those won't last long at all. The road oriented tires like HT or touring tires, like car type tires will last longer.

And of course, city driving wears tires more rapidly than highway driving.

Walmart also has cheap tires, and they cost a lot less than you paid at Mavis.

 

[rstsco]

Do tires wear with time?

Jason, Engineering Explained, put out this video on tire longevity and how they wear. The video description says "The Science Behind Tire Wear & How Engineers Design for Longevity".

Added: Time has more to do with degradation of compounds while wear has more to do with physics. In the video, Continental suggests 10 years from manufacturer date replace the tire regardless of tread depth.

 

[gman2304]

Do tires wear with time?

Typically years….not months…so.

 

[DCDG]

Have you checked with tire distributors if any after market tires come with a mileage warranty? I had Kumho Crugen HT51's on an F150 and they served me well all around ride, mileage handling, light snow traction truck was a RWD if mounted to a 4WD I see zero issues on snow traction.

 

[tiger862]

Have you checked with tire distributors if any after market tires come with a mileage warranty? I had Kumho Crugen HT51's on an F150 and they served me well all around ride, mileage handling, light snow traction truck was a RWD if mounted to a 4WD I see zero issues on snow traction.

I checked so many last night on manufactures website and all of them said same thing. It looks like the product of running a business I.E DoorDash and Uber Eats. Rapid Wear is not warranted.

 

[AZjeff]

Sorry that happened, sometimes the cheap option isn't. How did previous tires wear for you? Before needing tires again might spend some time looking at real reviews on TireRack for treadwear. Not perfect but it's something. Are you doing everything you can to maximize tire life? Good alignment, regular rotations, air pressure at or slightly above placard, drive like a grandma, etc? In your use time is money but if pushing hard to get one more delivery in costs a set of tires in 10 months is it worth it?

 

[Zebra312]

Why would the tire company have any idea you were using the vehicle for DoorDash?

 

[dogememe]

Why would the tire company have any idea you were using the vehicle for DoorDash?

Right? Just take the uber sticker out of your car and be like hey there I got these 20k miles ago and would like to warranty them and see what happens.

 

[tiger862]

Why would the tire company have any idea you were using the vehicle for DoorDash?

They don't know that I know of. I clean out vehicle each time however rapid tire wear is not warranty. They also claimed that passenger tires on LT vehicle will void warranty. BS is what I feel.

 

[tiger862]

Sorry that happened, sometimes the cheap option isn't. How did previous tires wear for you? Before needing tires again might spend some time looking at real reviews on TireRack for treadwear. Not perfect but it's something. Are you doing everything you can to maximize tire life? Good alignment, regular rotations, air pressure at or slightly above placard, drive like a grandma, etc? In your use time is money but if pushing hard to get one more delivery in costs a set of tires in 10 months is it worth it?

I bought the truck in May of last year so I don't know the history, however they had AT tires on it when I got it and they were cupped and noisy so I replaced them. Still have them, however a nail in sidewall ruined one tire. All the others are still at 5/32nd. The tires on it now are at 2/32 as well as down to wearing indicators and is dangerous on wet roads. No unusual wear. Tires are worn equal and had rotations between 5000 and 6500 miles. The truck drives straight with no hands, will go a mile or two down the road in a straight line. No noises over bumps or rough roads and I check all front end parts at each oil change. Just did brakes. Yes there is wear doing DoorDash, and I need the extra money as Disability doesn't pay for expenses from losing wife from a stroke. In 20k miles I only have replaced brakes, original on rear, front warped from Mavis on tire balance, and now the first set of tires along with oil changes. The Nissan seems to be handling it well. The truck started off not so well as a new engine was put in after a month of ownership and was only used to take care of wife in hospice, however that was a defect well documented.
All while averaging 19.1 mpg.

 

[bullwinkle]

They don't know that I know of. I clean out vehicle each time however rapid tire wear is not warranty. They also claimed that passenger tires on LT vehicle will void warranty. BS is what I feel.

A Frontier calls for LTs? Used to run loaded S-10s back in the day for work, we never ran LTs on them. IMO it would be better (& likely cheaper) to run a decent P-metric on it, even a much heavier (1/2 ton) SUV would have standard or XL passenger tires on it.

 

[gman2304]

They also claimed that passenger tires on LT vehicle will void warranty. BS is what I feel.

Agree! I’ve ran P metric tires ( perfectly fine according to the owners manual ) on my last 3 half ton pickups. IMO P rated tires run quieter and smoother.