Originally Posted By: Trav
Skyship knew that he just forgot.
He talked to the Honda engineers and got the skinny on this a few years ago while he was a pilot flying cost to coast.
Or maybe on one of fishing boats he worked on, or on some visit to the biggest dealer in Germany where the engineer joined him in laughter at the ineptness of some owners as he was doing an insurance claim.
Oh wait. The Liqui Moly guy told him to make sure only to do an idle flush on these engines or they go boom. You have to love these Google hero's.
Originally Posted By: Trav
Skyship knew that he just forgot.
He talked to the Honda engineers and got the skinny on this a few years ago while he was a pilot flying cost to coast.
Or maybe on one of fishing boats he worked on, or on some visit to the biggest dealer in Germany where the engineer joined him in laughter at the ineptness of some owners as he was doing an insurance claim.
Oh wait. The Liqui Moly guy told him to make sure only to do an idle flush on these engines or they go boom. You have to love these Google hero's.
Post of the year.
Count me in on the ford spitting out a plug on my mustang. The 2v engines are very durable,as long as the plugs stay in the head.
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Originally Posted By: JOD
Originally Posted By: cptbarkey
a honda engine fails, and everyone laments about how honda's quality "just isnt what it used to be." get a life. really.
Yeah, it's pretty insane. Honda makes a lot of very reliable, abuse-tolerant engines. This particular engine doesn't seem to be one of them. When a spark plug shoot out of a Ford cylinder head, where is the blanket condemnation of entire line of vehicles?
I think it is because you pay more for the Honda nameplate, so to speak. Hondas do cost more, and presumably you get more quality because you spend more $$$. So when there is an issue, it just glares. The PAX tires was and continue to be a debacle for Honda, and to lesser extent the trans and VCM issues, too.
There is a comon misconception that new Hondas are premium priced.
Not so.
We paid 16.8K for our '99 Accord and 19.1K for our '12 Accord.
The '12 is the seventh Honda we've owned, and I can assure you that we don't keep on buying them because they're not good machines.
The Hondas we've had have been reliable and durable cars.
We have a number of people crying about the V-6 and the automatic transmission.
The V-6 has been a good and durable engine for years.
The OP happened to get a bad one in a used car of unknown maintenance history.
The automatic is trouble free in most cases, except for a few years of the Accord V-6 and second gen Odys before 2004.
Other than than, there is no transmission issue.
There are bad used cars of every make.
The OP happened to buy one.
It is nice that he had a warranty, although absent that, he would have had reasonable cost alternatives.
It's too bad that so many have made this thread into a "Honda has a bad VCM implementation" festival.
The OP bought a used machine that was rode hard and put away wet.
The selling dealer bought the distressed piece at auction and sold it to the OP.
End of story.
Very well put. I don't think any more can be added. This post about covers it.