1998 HD Sportster 1200S

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Originally Posted By: boraticus
"Went for the non-chrome type."

Blasphemy!!!!



Thought I'd throw that in there just for you. Proof positive that it can be done, thus shattering your Harley owner generalization(s). You are hereby notified it can no longer be used.
 
Originally Posted By: Mr_Incredible
Originally Posted By: boraticus
"Went for the non-chrome type."

Blasphemy!!!!



Thought I'd throw that in there just for you. Proof positive that it can be done, thus shattering your Harley owner generalization(s). You are hereby notified it can no longer be used.


Careful now. If Willie G. sees your defiant act of non-conformance, you'll be on the first shuttle back to the mother ship!
 
Another example of your (inaccurate) generalizations of the Harley family. I don't know whether a big, bad Harley dude stole your ice cream when you were a child or your significant other when you were an adult, but your constant, incessant, never-ending, and unceasingly redundant carping is REALLY getting old out here. It serves no purpose and only makes you look smaller than real life. Kinda like that uncle that nobody likes because he stinks and always gives the kids dutch rubs at every family gathering.
 
Originally Posted By: Mr_Incredible
Another example of your (inaccurate) generalizations of the Harley family. I don't know whether a big, bad Harley dude stole your ice cream when you were a child or your significant other when you were an adult, but your constant, incessant, never-ending, and unceasingly redundant carping is REALLY getting old out here. It serves no purpose and only makes you look smaller than real life. Kinda like that uncle that nobody likes because he stinks and always gives the kids dutch rubs at every family gathering.


Cant we all (riders) just get along!
Ever since that south park F word episode I cant help but make a wub wub wub sound to myself whenever I come across a Harley LOL!
I used to date a girl that would give me the ol dutch rub when I was nice.... she didnt stink though
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That's funny! There is a meeting spot/restaurant in the corner of the state that is full of HD's on a Weekend . I know I'm going to do the Bub bub Bub Bub thing, and make new friends!
 
Originally Posted By: Mr_Incredible
Another example of your (inaccurate) generalizations of the Harley family. I don't know whether a big, bad Harley dude stole your ice cream when you were a child or your significant other when you were an adult, but your constant, incessant, never-ending, and unceasingly redundant carping is REALLY getting old out here. It serves no purpose and only makes you look smaller than real life. Kinda like that uncle that nobody likes because he stinks and always gives the kids dutch rubs at every family gathering.


A word to the wise....I get threatening PM's from admin whenever I give the boring one the verbal spanking he/she deserves. Apparently he/she has friends in high places who are equally biased.

BTW, I'm trying real hard to be "cordial."
 
Thanks, SWS. Equally, or similarly? It's evident that his boorishness not resulting in a vacation does give one the idea that he may have a sponsor somewhere.

Boraticus, you have experience that can be very relevant, but, man what a jerk you can be. I'm sure it tickles to do death to imagine your pounding on some poor, ignorant wanna-be Harley rider has them quivering and simpering in a corner somewhere. As if... It's past pathetic and verging on the pathological. Give it a rest.
 
I missed the filter part of the question. As with oils this list is roughly in order of cost. This is an Evo big twin list. The XL is an Evo so it shares the same filters.

Fram PH6022 or PH6065A
Champ 3614 or 3600 (long)
Wix 51215
NAPA PS1215
NAPA PS1516 (long)
Purolator ML16822
Bosch 3421
HD 63796-77A(C) or -80A(B)
Perf Form HD-2C(C) HD-2L(B)
K&N KN-171
Amsoil EaOM134
 
Originally Posted By: Mr_Incredible
Geez. I saw a thread with Harley in the title and I knew boraticus would be in here bashing Harleys and/or Harley riders. Sure enough, he did. At least this time he didn't whine about loud pipes. Yet.



Yeah, but no one bashes Asian "rice-rockets" here -- do they? No, the door only opens one-way. The leather set is always polite and tolerant. Uh-huh...?
 
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Originally Posted By: Zedhed
Originally Posted By: Mr_Incredible
Geez. I saw a thread with Harley in the title and I knew boraticus would be in here bashing Harleys and/or Harley riders. Sure enough, he did. At least this time he didn't whine about loud pipes. Yet.



Yeah, but no one bashes Asian "rice-rockets" here -- do they? No, the door only opens one-way. The leather set is always polite and tolerant. Uh-huh...?


Examples???
 
Originally Posted By: EagleFTE
Originally Posted By: Zedhed
Originally Posted By: Mr_Incredible
Geez. I saw a thread with Harley in the title and I knew boraticus would be in here bashing Harleys and/or Harley riders. Sure enough, he did. At least this time he didn't whine about loud pipes. Yet.



Yeah, but no one bashes Asian "rice-rockets" here -- do they? No, the door only opens one-way. The leather set is always polite and tolerant. Uh-huh...?


Examples???


+1 I try to read most of the posts on the motorcycle forum and I can't even remember the last time I read anything derogatory except for HD bashing. Not saying that it doesn't happen, but you can't justify one because the other happens. "Leather set" as used above is just another example of trying to cast a negative connotation. I don't wear a whole lot of leather (probably should) but I don't ridicule those who do. Heck, I don't even make fun of Bo riding with his mullet showing and wearing flip-flops!
 
OK:

Originally Posted By: Bluestream
I talked to a Motorcycle Cop about this, and most accidents he sees are youge kids with Sport Bikes. Speed is usually a factor. Very few accident with older riders and their cruisers.

Also, load pipes save lives. Other people in cars can hear you coming...


There is one...more to come
 
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Ooops... here's another:

Originally Posted By: SWSportsman
Originally Posted By: Zedhed
Is it possible to wave with "ape-hangers" ?



Or when crushing your 'nads on a crotch rocket?
 
Originally Posted By: Pioneer74
Picking up a low mileage 1998 Sportster 1200 Sport. A little over 10k miles. Has had all service done at dealership with HD 20w-50 oil and HD filters. Previous owners informs me that it is due for an oil change.

I would like a better alternative to overspending on a re-badged oil produced by a country with a questionable leader. I don't plan on riding much this year, maybe 3 or 5k, because of a hectic job and finishing my basement.

I guess my questions would be:

1. Do I start a synthetic oil now or keep using Dino?
2. What is a good brand after answering question #1?
3. After answering #1 and #2, what would my OCI be?
4. Can I easily get a filter to fit the bike without having to go to the dealer for it? They tend to be a little expensive.


Thank you in advance!


I am the original and current owner of a 1996 Sportster 1200S so I think I have at least a little experience in this matter. Its been to Sturgis once and several smaller rides in the last 14 years. I've tried several different oils and primary/trans fluids. I've found that Mobil V-Twin, Redline, and Amsoil lower the oil temp a little and Redline actually caused the idle to go up slightly - is that viscocity related or due to film thickness, or even something else - well, I don't know. Just thought I'd mention it. I think all of them are fine oils and I would lose no sleep about running them for a full year. I would recommend using either 15W-50 or 20W-50 weight oil (Redline standard 20W-50, Mobil 1 15W-50, M1 VT 20W-50, Amsoil makes about 3-4 different 20W-50 any s/b fine) since these engines can run very hot in the summer while stuck in traffic. You can use the non-motorcycle versions of the products also since the engine oil is only for the engine - it does not mix with the transmission. Why a synthetic product? Because of the heat issue mentioned above, but also because I think the products mentioned are superior products in other areas too like film thickness, lubricity, additive package, cold flow properties, TBN, antifoaming, and rust and oxidation prevention.

With regard to the Transmission/Primary I've had luck with Redline 75-90, 75-90NS, and even tried MTL once and it was OK. I used Mobil 1 75-90 once and my alternator gave out due to a short caused by the wire protective cover being eaten (corroded?) away. I've heard other people had the same problem while using M1 75-90 although that was a long time ago and their formulation may have changed by now. I currently run a Rivera race clutch that is very finicky regarding the fluid used. I've found that Formula+ works best with that clutch so far. If you want to save a couple bucks, use the Formula+ and change it every couple of years. The Formula+ and most of the different synethics on the market provided me with smoother shifting. Some provide an easier to find neutral, like the Redline and Formula+.

With regard to the oil filter, I am currently running the Amsoil EaO and I stocked up and bought 10 filters a few years ago just so I don't have to go get one every year. Otherwise, the Harley filter is OK, I've used it a few times too. I never really did any comparison testing of the filters so its hard for me to say one is better than another.
 
I would hardly call either of those examples equivalent to the insults hurled against HDs and their owners. Especially the first one.

As a Wing Motorcycle Safety officer way back when, I learned the Air Force numbers showed the standard dead young airman was on a borrowed fast motorcycle of the non-HD type, had a drink or two, and little to no training on riding. Sounds to me more factual than bashing, even if a small subset of the population.
 
Originally Posted By: Zedhed
Ooops... here's another:

Originally Posted By: SWSportsman
Originally Posted By: Zedhed
Is it possible to wave with "ape-hangers" ?



Or when crushing your 'nads on a crotch rocket?



If that's the best you can do, don't keep straining yourself. Doesn't appear that you have the ability or willingness to view the bigger picture.
 
Apparently some Harley riders are quite insensitive about any negative comments regarding their bikes. This only furthers my thought that those who own a HD do so for the ego, status, appearance, etc. If they were in it sorely for the intangibles that come from riding 45mph down a country road with the wind in their hair, they wouldn't care less about what someone thought of their ride, let alone some nameless person online. Did you buy the bike because it met your approval, or were you seeking the approval of others?
 
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Last evening when out on my Honda 150 scooter, a Harley rider on a low slung bagger actually nodded to me when I drove by him as he was stopped for a traffic light. I ignored him.
 
Originally Posted By: SWSportsman


If that's the best you can do, don't keep straining yourself. Doesn't appear that you have the ability or willingness to view the bigger picture.


What's the bigger picture? Not bowing down and worshiping at the altar of Harley Infatuation?
 
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