13/16-16 to 1-16 thread adapter

[GoremanX]

I just ordered an Amsoil bypass filter mount kit, and was very disappointed when what I received is a cheap remote filter mount with a drilled plug in the outlet and a bunch of -4AN hardware and hose. For the price they charge, I expected better.

I'm considering sending this kit back for a refund. I already have a nice remote filter mount here that has a 13/16-16 thread on it. I could remove that nipple and thread in an adapter, instead. But I can't find a 13/16-16 to 1-16 (Amsoil bypass filter threads) nipple adapter anywhere. Does such a thing exist? Or do I need to fabricate my own?

 

[jimmyjamesndt]

I just ordered an Amsoil bypass filter mount kit, and was very disappointed when what I received is a cheap remote filter mount with a drilled plug in the outlet and a bunch of -4AN hardware and hose. For the price they charge, I expected better.

I'm considering sending this kit back for a refund. I already have a nice remote filter mount here that has a 13/16-16 thread on it. I could remove that nipple and thread in an adapter, instead. But I can't find a 13/16-16 to 1-16 (Amsoil bypass filter threads) nipple adapter anywhere. Does such a thing exist? Or do I need to fabricate my own?

I don't think anyone makes one, but they do make a 3/4-16 to 1-16 adapter, should be able to find a readily available 3/4-16 filter mount.

 

[oil pan 4]

I just ordered an Amsoil bypass filter mount kit, and was very disappointed when what I received is a cheap remote filter mount with a drilled plug in the outlet and a bunch of -4AN hardware and hose. For the price they charge, I expected better.

I'm considering sending this kit back for a refund. I already have a nice remote filter mount here that has a 13/16-16 thread on it. I could remove that nipple and thread in an adapter, instead. But I can't find a 13/16-16 to 1-16 (Amsoil bypass filter threads) nipple adapter anywhere. Does such a thing exist? Or do I need to fabricate my own?

Yes send that junk back and don't even fool with the amsoil filter. There is a 13/16-16 thread 2 micron wix hydraulic filter that would make a great bypass filter. 13/16-16 filter heads are like $40.
You can do it your self for probably less than $200.

 

[GoremanX]

Yes send that junk back and don't even fool with the amsoil filter. There is a 13/16-16 thread 2 micron wix hydraulic filter that would make a great bypass filter. 13/16-16 filter heads are like $40.
You can do it your self for probably less than $200.

Yeah, I was super disappointed that a $370 "kit" was such a collection of junk parts. And that didn't even include the **** filter! No way I can justify that, especially after seeing how janky it is

 

[oil pan 4]

Yeah, I was super disappointed that a $370 "kit" was such a collection of junk parts. And that didn't even include the **** filter! No way I can justify that, especially after seeing how janky it is

I think the worst price on that 2 micron wix was if you order one at a time you could pay up to $40 each, about half of that shipping.
I thought the whole lot with a filter was like $500?
Nope I'd say you're better off doing 5,000 mile oci with decent oil and running fram synthetic endurance filters.

 

[GoremanX]

I think the worst price on that 2 micron wix was if you order one at a time you could pay up to $40 each, about half of that shipping.
I thought the whole lot with a filter was like $500?
Nope I'd say you're better off doing 5,000 mile oci with decent oil and running fram synthetic endurance filters.

I'm wrong, it was $372 all in WITH the filter and shipping. I added the 6-month "Preferred Customer Registration" for $10, which automatically knocks 25% of any product. Otherwise it's $370 for the kit plus $60 for the filter.

But if there's another 2 micron filter option that I can use with the 13/16-16 filter mount I already have on hand to use as a bypass setup, I'm totally sold on it. Do you happen to know the Wix part number?

 

[oil pan 4]

After a little digging on some of my old posts here's the first one I found.
Look at the stats on this beast:
Donaldson P551324
An unassuming 13/16-16 thread filter that wouldn't seem like it does anything special...
50% at 1 micron
99.99% at 20 micron
20psi psi bypass.
Being one micron and the size of a regular oil filter it may load up as fast as the existing engine oil filter but that 20psi bypass might keep it going for a bit. Booohooo, problems we wish we had right?
If that really does load up too fast, 4 to 8 micron hydraulic filters are more plentiful and easier to find.

 

[GoremanX]

That sounds like it would be a great primary filter, but I'm already setup with a primary filter I'm happy with and plumbed for a bypass filter on the car I'm building. I really just need to top it off with a really fine filter that has either a 13/16-16 or 1-1/8-16 thread (since the filter holder I have can easily accommodate either of those threads). Something that's rated for 4 micron at beta 1000 would be perfect. I'm having a heck of a time finding oil filter specs, though. I can't even search the Donaldson site by filter thread! It's infuriating...

 

[21_6.7f450]

Send it back and tell them why. Mine never got installed on my 6.7 because it's a hodge podge of parts...IE dinky small hoses. Amsoil is cutting corners and it'd cost them customers. I'm not going to spend $500 to re-engineer a kit that costs that to begin with.
Also, there response was eehh as well.
Spend your money with someone who wants it, who actually deserves it.

 

[GoremanX]

I sent it back. I found a collection of parts that will allow me to run just about any bypass filter for less than half the price of their "kit", not just their own filter with a 1"-16 thread And my setup won't require 3 different NPT fittings for a single hose end. What an absolute joke.

 

[oil pan 4]

That sounds like it would be a great primary filter, but I'm already setup with a primary filter I'm happy with and plumbed for a bypass filter on the car I'm building. I really just need to top it off with a really fine filter that has either a 13/16-16 or 1-1/8-16 thread (since the filter holder I have can easily accommodate either of those threads). Something that's rated for 4 micron at beta 1000 would be perfect. I'm having a heck of a time finding oil filter specs, though. I can't even search the Donaldson site by filter thread! It's infuriating...

A filter that stops 50% of 1 micron particles could clog up.
It's stoping 99.99% of 20 micron bits, so it could likely be stopping say 96% of 10 micron bits and possibly 80% of 5 micron bits.
Yeah Donaldson doesn't have the most user friendly search. What I do is use the wix search feature where at least I can search filters by screw thread size and then go by length and width. From there I can see what else crosses.

 

[jonlandrum]

After a little digging on some of my old posts here's the first one I found.
Look at the stats on this beast:
Donaldson P551324
An unassuming 13/16-16 thread filter that wouldn't seem like it does anything special...
50% at 1 micron
99.99% at 20 micron
20psi psi bypass.
Being one micron and the size of a regular oil filter it may load up as fast as the existing engine oil filter but that 20psi bypass might keep it going for a bit. Booohooo, problems we wish we had right?
If that really does load up too fast, 4 to 8 micron hydraulic filters are more plentiful and easier to find.

Be still, my beating heart, I think I'm in love!

Edit: fairness in lending statement, I'm on a 3k OCI with my vehicles, so load up doesn't matter much to me.

 

[oil pan 4]

Be still, my beating heart, I think I'm in love!

Edit: fairness in lending statement, I'm on a 3k OCI with my vehicles, so load up doesn't matter much to me.

Any oil filter I cut open from a gasoline engine with 3000 to 5000 miles still look new.
It probably won't load up based on everything I've read. On a properly working gasoline engine most dirt that gets into the engine and most of the combustion by products are around 20 microns and bigger. Those 20 micron and bigger particles are believed to cause most of the wear in an engine.
A standard good 20 micron oil filter picks up about 1 milligram of dirt per mile on a properly working gasoline engine.
So say you're catching down to 1mu, you probably catching 2mg worst case scenario 3 or 4mg per mile, so after 3,000 miles you could have around a gram of dirt in the filter. Should take at least several grams to clog it.
I would only run it for 3,000 miles and cut it open to see what there is to see.
A 1mu filter on a diesel might load up very rapidly. Diesel guys running bypass filters usually run big 4mu filters and they clog those after a few oil changes.
I ran a fuel filter size 6mu hydraulic filter on my diesel I believe the part number is 665566, to filter the oil going to the turbo after I lost a turbo to a chunk of sludge. I hoped I was going to get 2 oil changes on a turbo oil filter. Half way through the second oil change I was getting 5psi of oil to the turbo while the engine was hot at idle. Oops. Change it every time.

 

[jonlandrum]

Any oil filter I cut open from a gasoline engine with 3000 to 5000 miles still look new.
It probably won't load up based on everything I've read. On a properly working gasoline engine most dirt that gets into the engine and most of the combustion by products are around 20 microns and bigger. Those 20 micron and bigger particles are believed to cause most of the wear in an engine.
A standard good 20 micron oil filter picks up about 1 milligram of dirt per mile on a properly working gasoline engine.
So say you're catching down to 1mu, you probably catching 2mg worst case scenario 3 or 4mg per mile, so after 3,000 miles you could have around a gram of dirt in the filter. Should take at least several grams to clog it.
I would only run it for 3,000 miles and cut it open to see what there is to see.
A 1mu filter on a diesel might load up very rapidly. Diesel guys running bypass filters usually run big 4mu filters and they clog those after a few oil changes.
I ran a fuel filter size 6mu hydraulic filter on my diesel I believe the part number is 665566, to filter the oil going to the turbo after I lost a turbo to a chunk of sludge. I hoped I was going to get 2 oil changes on a turbo oil filter. Half way through the second oil change I was getting 5psi of oil to the turbo while the engine was hot at idle. Oops. Change it every time.

That is a good point; I only have gas engines that I'm servicing. 1 micron is even catching some  bacteria, so yeah, it's oveoverkill, for sure. I like what someone said on a woodworking forum I frequent: "$200 for a desk!? I can build it myself for $350." Overkill is the DIY mantra, it seems.