07 Suzuki Forenza under valve cover and spark plug

[Azeem]

pics are not what you expect but I'll post them anyway

3 years leaking, was about time to do the job

beside spark plugs and Transmission range sensor.

I was surprised by the amount of permatex and gasket maker used,2 types WHITE and brown all over the place,took me good 3 hours cleaning the mating surfaces, 15 minutes to change the spark plugs and 3 days to replace TRS( not even done yet)

P.S: car has 115.9XX miles and spark plugs never been changed,NGK was my replacement.

 

[RamFan]

Sooooooo what oil has it had?

 

[Azeem]

Originally Posted By: RamFan
Sooooooo what oil has it had?


It always had some in different from what's going out,Pennzoil conventional, Quaker State Defy,Valvoline conventional/NG,Pennzoil High Mileage,now Pennzoil platinum for 4k miles and I was tickling to change it in case some debris from old gasket has fallen in there but I didn't.

 

[GSCJR]

Are you sure? I have never seen Bosch as an OEM plug for an Asian brand. Although I have not seen it all, I suspect the OEM plug was either NGK or Nippondenso.

 

[Azeem]

Originally Posted By: GSCJR
Are you sure? I have never seen Bosch as an OEM plug for an Asian brand. Although I have not seen it all, I suspect the OEM plug was either NGK or Nippondenso.


Yes it is.Bosch is the OEM plug and Bougicord for the wires.This 2.0 L engine is a sourced Opel engine from the 80s and Holden in Australia was making them for Suzuki/GM after some modifications and timing belt addition,IIRC.

Oddly,NGK was the only replacement with dual ground as the Bosch

 

[gregk24]

Looks better than I expected. We used to own one and it wasnt that impressive (they are rebadged Daewoo Lecettis) The manual transmission in ours was choppy and it started to grind gears at only 40,000 miles. My friend has one and the clutch had to be replaced at 30,000 miles and she has had power steering issues and other issues as well. Glad yours has held up though! Looks good.

 

[GSCJR]

Originally Posted By: Azeem
Originally Posted By: GSCJR
Are you sure? I have never seen Bosch as an OEM plug for an Asian brand. Although I have not seen it all, I suspect the OEM plug was either NGK or Nippondenso.


Yes it is.Bosch is the OEM plug and Bougicord for the wires.This 2.0 L engine is a sourced Opel engine from the 80s and Holden in Australia was making them for Suzuki/GM after some modifications and timing belt addition,IIRC.

Oddly,NGK was the only replacement with dual ground as the Bosch


Interesting, good to know. So it should have had AC Delco plugs?
LOL

 

[Azeem]

Originally Posted By: gregk24
Looks better than I expected. We used to own one and it wasnt that impressive (they are rebadged Daewoo Lecettis) The manual transmission in ours was choppy and it started to grind gears at only 40,000 miles. My friend has one and the clutch had to be replaced at 30,000 miles and she has had power steering issues and other issues as well. Glad yours has held up though! Looks good.


A lot of people seem to have problems with these cars, I agree.Like you said they are rebadged,here comes GM, Daewoo Lacetti/Nubira . The Forenza/Reno is as any other "multi-daddy" car has to have the customer regretting somehow on quirky stuff like Transmission range sensor which seems to go out every couple years .

They still are not horribly bad with decent maintenance, timing belt replacement and luck.I still like it, however It's NOT an Accord

Thank you.

 

[Spazdog]

Originally Posted By: Azeem
Originally Posted By: gregk24
Looks better than I expected. We used to own one and it wasnt that impressive (they are rebadged Daewoo Lecettis) The manual transmission in ours was choppy and it started to grind gears at only 40,000 miles. My friend has one and the clutch had to be replaced at 30,000 miles and she has had power steering issues and other issues as well. Glad yours has held up though! Looks good.


A lot of people seem to have problems with these cars, I agree.Like you said they are rebadged,here comes GM, Daewoo Lacetti/Nubira . The Forenza/Reno is as any other "multi-daddy" car has to have the customer regretting somehow on quirky stuff like Transmission range sensor which seems to go out every couple years .

They still are not horribly bad with decent maintenance, timing belt replacement and luck.I still like it, however It's NOT an Accord

Thank you.



I'm honestly still surprised when I see one with well over 100,000 miles. But I see them frequently.

I never could figure out if it is actually a Holden engine or if it is a Daewoo copy of the Holden engine. Most sources indicate that it is a Holden.

My impression of the manual transmission was that it was a broom handle in a bucket of rocks. Terrible. Makes a TypeII VW microbus with badly adjusted linkage seem precise and smooth.

 

[gregk24]

Originally Posted By: Spazdog
Originally Posted By: Azeem
Originally Posted By: gregk24
Looks better than I expected. We used to own one and it wasnt that impressive (they are rebadged Daewoo Lecettis) The manual transmission in ours was choppy and it started to grind gears at only 40,000 miles. My friend has one and the clutch had to be replaced at 30,000 miles and she has had power steering issues and other issues as well. Glad yours has held up though! Looks good.


A lot of people seem to have problems with these cars, I agree.Like you said they are rebadged,here comes GM, Daewoo Lacetti/Nubira . The Forenza/Reno is as any other "multi-daddy" car has to have the customer regretting somehow on quirky stuff like Transmission range sensor which seems to go out every couple years .

They still are not horribly bad with decent maintenance, timing belt replacement and luck.I still like it, however It's NOT an Accord

Thank you.



I'm honestly still surprised when I see one with well over 100,000 miles. But I see them frequently.

I never could figure out if it is actually a Holden engine or if it is a Daewoo copy of the Holden engine. Most sources indicate that it is a Holden.

My impression of the manual transmission was that it was a broom handle in a bucket of rocks. Terrible. Makes a TypeII VW microbus with badly adjusted linkage seem precise and smooth.


Yes, the manual in ours was very clunky. Had a hard time going into first, and by the time we sold it 20,000 miles later it started grinding gears. The rest of the car never gave us any issues though. We bought it for MPG's as we previously had a suburban with the 5.7 that drank gas. But we were not so pleasantly surprised to find out that the Forenza was only getting 21 MPG on a good day. We traded it in for the Uplander. It gets 19 MPG around town, not bad at all. Plus there is a lot more space and its a better ride.