GW,
I DO take offense as I see people doing nothing more than just pushing amsoil or any one particular oil only for that matter with no regards to any other oil, OR, Pushing any oil including schaeffers when the subject matter is of another nature, and in this case, my question was how does the esters of a tcw3 base oil in amsoil relate to moly in the tcw3? If I read it correctly, we were discussing the moly additive in two stroke applications.
Yes, there has been way more pushing on one particular oil with no mention of others as well and I have to admit that I have come on defensively in some cases trying to establish that schaeffers too has products to compare with which has made me very uneasy as I feel I'm pushing schaeffers on this board and I personally don't like it.
I have really tried to maintain a fine line of not mentioning schaeffers everytime oil is mentioned but after seeing amsoil this or redline that or rp here and there for recommendations to people on a specific subject with no regards to others that also have excellent products and do an excellent job is to me a no no.
If you mention a sugested oil with regards to a question and explain as to why it is a good choice, also, I think it would be courteous as well to try and be more open to suggest at least one or two others that can follow so as to maintain a simple balance and this issue will not be problematic as way to many people (sometimes including myself) get a little defensive that their favorite oi is not mentioned as well.
Then that person ends up putting in his comments about his as well and then it continues and sounds way too much like other boards where its a product war and not a discussion board with reasoning as what to look for or why this is a better choice in lew of others.
I think this board has been moving in the wrong direction latley. This forum is designed to helping people understand the differences between oils, what your opinions as to why you think that way, and all of us learn or understand.
You are most definatly correct as to the quality of all on here and I cannot even put into words the appreciation I have for people such as Johnny, bror,terry, and Molakule and yourself, just to name a few.
I hope that people do understand I'm getting this off my chest now so to hopefully keep this board as is. I don't want to see flames at each other and I am really sick of having to bring my particular products up in defense to ensure that others reading dont go away thinking that just redline or amsoil or whoevers oil is the only oil that does that. (I know there has been a few that has tried keeping this balance and it doesnt' go unoticed.)
This board is a oil discussion board and You as well as many of us have seen where this stuff gets agrivating where mention of just one oil as the cure all gets tiring.
Pleas note one other thing, I stated plainly,
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If anyone else knows of any tcw3 2stroke oil with a soluble moly in it, post it as well but I know of none myself
The board was open to any other suggested oil that may have moly in it as that statement was clear as well.
As for th castrol thread, I asked for oil analysis as there is a lot of people who submit that amsoil is great. There is no doubt in my mind that amsoil is a good oil. My purpose for asking that was I have yet to see where anyone has actually done the extended 25k drains with amsoil having done analysis during that time and figured that anyone in the business of chemistry or lubrication in general would surly have some analysis report. That was not a gig at Molakule nor amsoil direct, just a statement that courious minds want to know. I will pose that to you as well since I know you have stated at times you have used amsoil, do you have analysis to show how it faired while doing the 25k drains.
I know Al has done analysis with amsoil and kept his to a moderate 12k as he felt that was the best for him.
[ June 23, 2002, 09:00 PM: Message edited by: BOBISTHEOILGUY ]