Can always count on poprivit to bring it home!!!! LOL. Doc is a chiropractor that I've been seeing for years. I have degenerative disc disease and he wanted some updated xrays as the back pain has been getting worse here lately. Basically no cartilage between L5-L4 and little between L3-L4. He told me years ago that it would get worse as I aged, well that time is smacking me upside the head. I've also got diverticulitus...thanks dad....and had a really bad scare about a year ago. Put me on my knees for about 3 days until the antibiotics cleared it up. From what he sold me, as compared to the internet prices, he really ain't making much money, but as according to poprivit, it could be all hogwash. That's why I'm soliciting the brethren. I've been on here for a number of years and I know some of ya'll are around me age....50-ish. Changing the diet....e-gads!!!! My moto is "the west wasn't won on salad." I just bought a half cow a month ago and yeah, I love beef. One thing I didn't realize, but it appears that yogurt has the same beneficial enzymes as to what I'd be taking? Also, I don't think if these as "pills" in the sense that every American wants to just pop a pill in and away goes the problem. I am a staunch believer in what all I put in my body. I don't even take aspririn for pain, just deal with it. I do take glucosemine, fish oil, multi-vitamin religiously every day. Hmmmm....beer as yeast....could that help? No, and that's from experience....