WRX vs Tacoma vs ???

[RoadRaceJosh]

Originally Posted By: Olas
If you want WRX levels of fun and driver involvement, with Toyota levels of borig reliability, there is one vehicle that fits the bill perfectly and gives you the best of both worlds.

The Celica GT4.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Celica_GT-Four


ROTFLMAO! Sure! Fine one in Tennessee or anywhere South of the Mason-Dixon line that isn't a raggedy mess.

 

[RoadRaceJosh]

Sorry to hear your WRX has been troublesome. I really like my Frontier and I expect it to be rather reliable. But it's a truck and so like Buck91 I also have a car, but mine is a 1997 BMW M3 sedan rather than a Mustang. With the 4 cylinder and 5-speed manual the Frontier actually gets slight better fuel economy than the M3, but the M3 fits in smaller spaces and is a much different driving experience. I'd get Subaru to fix your car if you really like it.

 

[tojo1968]

Quote:
I don't think there's many trucks more reliable than a Tacoma.

Ahhh the Toyota stigma. ANY vehicle with proper maintenance will go 200k. I have driven a Chevy, Pontiac, and a Nissan to 200k. I still own the Sentra with 292K on it. Runs like it has 29k on it.

OP, I looked at all the mid size trucks in April of 2015. I bought my Nissan Desert Runner for $22k and the comparable Toyota, Chevy, and GMC trucks were over $30k. Do not decide on your truck just because "Toyota's are reliable".
Google Toyota engine sludge or Tacoma frame rust.
All car companies have great products and have ones with issues.

 

[e55amgbenz007]

"Ahhh the Toyota stigma. ANY vehicle with proper maintenance will go 200k. I have driven a Chevy, Pontiac, and a Nissan to 200k. I still own the Sentra with 292K on it. Runs like it has 29k on it.

OP, I looked at all the mid size trucks in April of 2015. I bought my Nissan Desert Runner for $22k and the comparable Toyota, Chevy, and GMC trucks were over $30k. Do not decide on your truck just because "Toyota's are reliable".
Google Toyota engine sludge or Tacoma frame rust.
All car companies have great products and have ones with issues. "






I have owned upwards of 20 cars in the past 15 years; about half of those are/were Toyotas:
2000 Tacoma 5 Speed
1998 4Runner 5 Speed
1999 4Runner 5 Speed
1999 4Runner 5 Speed
2000 4Runner Auto
2000 4Runner 5 Speed
2000 Tacoma 5 speed (another one)
2003 Camry Auto
2010 Sequoia Auto
2014 4Runner Auto

Not once- I will repeat- Not once did ANY of these vehicles break down on me. During the timeframe I had owned a majority of these, I was driving 45K a year from the Bay Area to San Diego to Mckinleyville up north. I'd say its not a "stigma." But that's just me and over 500K driven on Toyotas.

 

[Nate1979]

Ah, the perfectly reliable Tacomas. Two words, frame rot.

 

[jongies3]

I have an 04 Tacoma double cab 4x4, great little truck! Zero problems at all in the 30k miles I've driven it. Has 101k on it now and climbing! Only thing I've done is change oil, it's getting a new frame and timing belt soon though.

 

[bananaman82]

Originally Posted By: Rand
maybe trade it in on a 2016 or 2017wrx

the fa20dit engine is fantastic and maybe subaru can help you out abit due to your current issues.

The 2014 used the old EJ engine.


I am not a fan of the new models. Plus I love the hatchback.

 

[bananaman82]

Originally Posted By: 86cutlass307
If you buy new, physically watch dealer service verify ATF level if you buy an Auto trans model. All model years are known to be underserviced from the factory. Mine was about 3/4 qt low when I took mine in for a TSB that reflashed the tranny shift pattern shortly after I bought it. Take a look at Tacomaworld.com for some research on maintenance items/tasks, part longevity, upgrades you might be interested. The TRD models come with Bilstein 4600 series shocks and struts from the factory but those are quickly overwhelmed. Bilstein 5100's are the way to go. I like mine, glad I bought it.


What are some things you like about your truck and what are some things you hate?

 

[bananaman82]

Originally Posted By: Nate1979
Your experience with a Subaru is not normal.


Some have told me that my car is a lemon. I hope so because I love the thing.

 

[bananaman82]

Thanks for the input everyone. I still have no idea what to do. Subaru fixed the throw out bearing and oil leak under the warranty. I guess we will see what happens.

 

[tojo1968]

Quote:
Not once- I will repeat- Not once did ANY of these vehicles break down on me. During the timeframe I had owned a majority of these, I was driving 45K a year from the Bay Area to San Diego to Mckinleyville up north. I'd say its not a "stigma." But that's just me and over 500K driven on Toyotas.

LOL Dont get butt hurt! I NEVER said they were not reliable. Let me repost this so you can re read it
Quote:
ANY vehicle with proper maintenance will go 200k.
All car companies have great products and have ones with issues.
Google Toyota engine sludge or Tacoma frame rust.

Yes, it is a stigma, Toyota has had major reliability issues with certain models. Just like every other car maker.
PS All those vehicle's you have owned and they NEVER broke down on you? You have NEVER replaced a starter, alternator or battery? Sensor or solenoid? All those vehicles started up and ran every day you drove them with NO issues? You, my friend, should buy a lottery ticket.

 

[MacWest]

love mine

 

[tojo1968]

http://toyotasludge.com/victims
http://tacomaproblems.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/...d572_story.html
http://blog.caranddriver.com/massive-tak...ected-vehicles/
I will say this one more time. Toyota is no more or less reliable than most other car companies.
They ALL have problems, INCLUDING Nissan. Stop believing that EVERY Toyota, or any other manufacture, are free from problems.
OP, again, I picked my truck based on how much I got for my money and owner reviews.
I actually wanted a Tacoma.
But i refused to pay them $32k for what Nissan offered me for $10k less.
What ever you decide, please post a pic for us!

 

[MacWest]

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at 36 months: 74.9%
at 60 months: 60.4%

 

[john_pifer]

2007 Tacoma V6 PreRunner here.

Owned since I bought new in June 2007. 180,000+ on it now with almost zero problems.

Biggest thing I've had was a bearing cup in the aft driveshaft u-joint dried up at around 80K, causing a squeak when I drove in reverse. Easy fix...was able to replace all 3 u-joints myself. Took one afternoon, and I was taking my time. Driveshaft was super-easy to remove and install - just 6 bolts. Borrowed a little press at Auto Zone to get the old u-joints out and press in the new ones.

Other than that, let's see... Had a bad solder in the overhead compass/temp display that failed around the same time - had an avionics technician friend re-solder and it's going strong for 4 years now. Center console latch broke, intermittent problems with driver's side door microswitch that caused me to lock myself out of the truck once, valve covers are starting to seep a little bit now, after 9 years.

I'm on my 2nd set of front brakes...rear shoes still haven't worn out.

I've changed all fluids. Transmission was easy to flush myself using a write-up on a forum I found. Did that around 100K and will do it again at 200K. Transmission still shifting perfectly. Matter of fact it's the same unit that was used in the V8 4Runner, so it's overbuilt for this application.

Still doesn't use any measurable amount of oil between 10K OCIs.

Has never needed an alignment.

CEL has never come on... Still on original alternator, starter, etc.

Oh, I did also have to replace an idler pulley. Bearing started making noise.

I highly recommend.

One thing about Toyota vs. Nissan - my personal opinion is that the extra cost of a Toyota is worth it. In my view, the Tacoma is, overall, a more refined truck, in every way, than the Frontier. Just compare the 2, side-by-side. Interior-wise, just to take one facet, there's no comparison.

Another advantage to the Taco - it changed very little from the year it was introduced, 2005, to 2015, the last year before a clean-sheet redesign for 2016. So, even if you have a 2005, you still have a very up-to-date-looking truck.

 

[asand1]

Originally Posted By: e55amgbenz007
"Ahhh the Toyota stigma. ANY vehicle with proper maintenance will go 200k. I have driven a Chevy, Pontiac, and a Nissan to 200k. I still own the Sentra with 292K on it. Runs like it has 29k on it.

OP, I looked at all the mid size trucks in April of 2015. I bought my Nissan Desert Runner for $22k and the comparable Toyota, Chevy, and GMC trucks were over $30k. Do not decide on your truck just because "Toyota's are reliable".
Google Toyota engine sludge or Tacoma frame rust.
All car companies have great products and have ones with issues. "






I have owned upwards of 20 cars in the past 15 years; about half of those are/were Toyotas:
2000 Tacoma 5 Speed
1998 4Runner 5 Speed
1999 4Runner 5 Speed
1999 4Runner 5 Speed
2000 4Runner Auto
2000 4Runner 5 Speed
2000 Tacoma 5 speed (another one)
2003 Camry Auto
2010 Sequoia Auto
2014 4Runner Auto

Not once- I will repeat- Not once did ANY of these vehicles break down on me. During the timeframe I had owned a majority of these, I was driving 45K a year from the Bay Area to San Diego to Mckinleyville up north. I'd say its not a "stigma." But that's just me and over 500K driven on Toyotas.


Hard to get a feel for reliability when you're always trading in two year old cars. Drive one car for 15 years and 300K and then tell us about reliability.

 

[rationull]

What problems did you have with your throwout bearing, if you don't mind my asking?

 

[Ausfahrt]

Originally Posted By: rationull
What problems did you have with your throwout bearing, if you don't mind my asking?

 

[e55amgbenz007]

Originally Posted By: asand1
Originally Posted By: e55amgbenz007
"Ahhh the Toyota stigma. ANY vehicle with proper maintenance will go 200k. I have driven a Chevy, Pontiac, and a Nissan to 200k. I still own the Sentra with 292K on it. Runs like it has 29k on it.

OP, I looked at all the mid size trucks in April of 2015. I bought my Nissan Desert Runner for $22k and the comparable Toyota, Chevy, and GMC trucks were over $30k. Do not decide on your truck just because "Toyota's are reliable".
Google Toyota engine sludge or Tacoma frame rust.
All car companies have great products and have ones with issues. "






I have owned upwards of 20 cars in the past 15 years; about half of those are/were Toyotas:
2000 Tacoma 5 Speed
1998 4Runner 5 Speed
1999 4Runner 5 Speed
1999 4Runner 5 Speed
2000 4Runner Auto
2000 4Runner 5 Speed
2000 Tacoma 5 speed (another one)
2003 Camry Auto
2010 Sequoia Auto
2014 4Runner Auto

Not once- I will repeat- Not once did ANY of these vehicles break down on me. During the timeframe I had owned a majority of these, I was driving 45K a year from the Bay Area to San Diego to Mckinleyville up north. I'd say its not a "stigma." But that's just me and over 500K driven on Toyotas.


Hard to get a feel for reliability when you're always trading in two year old cars. Drive one car for 15 years and 300K and then tell us about reliability.




Each of these (with the exception of the 2014 4Runner) was purchased with an excess of 80k on the odometer and were over 10 years old. The Sequoia had 100K on the odometer when purchased. A majority were then driven hundreds of thousands of miles without issue. I'd say that's fairly impressive

 

[Andrew1972]

Originally Posted By: rationull
What problems did you have with your throwout bearing, if you don't mind my asking?


Wife ha: a 2005 legacy turbo and the throw out bearing failed also. She is a pretty easy driver as the original clutch during that parts replacement at 110k was in exceptional shape so we skipped paying for all the parts except a $40 throw out bearing.

The same clutch now has 200k. I think it's a common problem at least with turbo legacy/turbo outback.