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Would you buy a hybrid?
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Toyota Hybrid.
harder to find in the trim you want and not cheap.
Mazda hybrid this year with Toyota tech.
harder to find in the trim you want and not cheap.
Mazda hybrid this year with Toyota tech.
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I don't know , I think I prefer older cars. Ones with the crank windows .
We all get stuck in our groove. I was for a bit. Not saying I'm bowing down to new tech, but I'm keeping an open mind to try new experiences. That said the hybrid loses out to the best of either when it comes to feel. CVTs and hybrids are my least favorite. The methods to blend them together takes away from both. Hybrids don't go far enough for me and I don't like stuff that feels numbed.
EVs just do feel better when it comes to smoothness which hybrids just can't match. ICE with a proper manual or even a dual clutch just gets my blood pumping. Being good getting A to B is definitely a thing for many people. I'd like the car to give me some excitement between those two points.
Yes. If I had to drive a lot.
The first hybrid I bought was in 2006. It was a five year old Prius that I got for $6650. I put it on Ebay and sold it for around $8800 if I remember right. I didn't even drive it out of the auction. Just took pictures. Put it on Ebay, and met the customer at the airport.
I have bought over a hundred hybrids since then, and driven them all. If you drive a lot and if the weather is cool where you live, they are the perfect daily driver.
But with normal driving for only two people? A well kept older Chevy Bolt and a reliable gasoline vehicle are a far better choice.
The Bolt will last over 200,000 miles and powering it cost us between a penny to a penny and a half per mile. We use that for over 90% of our driving.
Our gas vehicle is usually a dime a mile to fuel up. If I wasn't in the car business, I could keep it for 20+ years. The 2000s offered several great hybrids when it came to longevity. But now I would only buy the prior gen Prius from 2016 to 2022 if my driving needs required a hybrid.
The first hybrid I bought was in 2006. It was a five year old Prius that I got for $6650. I put it on Ebay and sold it for around $8800 if I remember right. I didn't even drive it out of the auction. Just took pictures. Put it on Ebay, and met the customer at the airport.
I have bought over a hundred hybrids since then, and driven them all. If you drive a lot and if the weather is cool where you live, they are the perfect daily driver.
But with normal driving for only two people? A well kept older Chevy Bolt and a reliable gasoline vehicle are a far better choice.
The Bolt will last over 200,000 miles and powering it cost us between a penny to a penny and a half per mile. We use that for over 90% of our driving.
Our gas vehicle is usually a dime a mile to fuel up. If I wasn't in the car business, I could keep it for 20+ years. The 2000s offered several great hybrids when it came to longevity. But now I would only buy the prior gen Prius from 2016 to 2022 if my driving needs required a hybrid.
We purchased on going on two years ago, very happy with the vehicle and it's very reasonable cost of fuel to operate with its high MPG.
Okay, you're making too much sense here.
Cut it out!
I mean, who would want a car cheap enough to run that fuel cost for any journey is never a consideration?
I do love the various comments from those above in this thread who have never owned a hybrid and have no idea what they're talking about.
Welcome to the party that us EV guys have been dealing with for years. When it works for you it works and some just don’t want to hear it.
Exactly!
You buy an EV with an awareness of the expected range and plan accordingly.
You charge the darn thing at home every night and always depart with 80% battery.
Pretty hard, huh?
You can easily map charging spots en route on a trip and a charge to 80% doesn't take all that long.
People do come up with phony reasons as to why everyone should avoid anything different from what they're used to.
Human nature is to be change adverse. Acceptance comes with time.
ICE fueling is ingrained in our world and has been for many years. I live in an area where Superchargers are everywhere, and I fuel with energy from the sun. Now, my use case is about as EV beneficial as you are gonna get... I also have ICE vehicles and, keep your hands off my old Tundra!
EVs are not for every use case, but ownership will continue to grow as charging capabilities evolve and the "right" EVs come to market.
Are EVs good? Ask an owner. Overall customer satisfaction is on par with ICE vehicles.
"Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change." Prof. Stephen Hawking
You grow or you go.
You grow or you go.
A plug in hybrid absolutely. A regular hybrid absolutely not.
You'd need to do some figuring on this. Depends upon the car, your use of it, the local cost of gasoline and electric service and your local climate.
If your use is mostly local, then a PHEV might prove the more efficient choice in cost per mile, even better if you can charge free at work. If you'll frequently exhaust the EV range in use, it makes less sense and if you live in a place that sees cold weather and you might want to keep frost off the windshield then it makes even less sense.
If gas prices are high locally and electricity is cheap, the PHEV may be the lowest cost choice, even considering the price premium over a HEV.
I buy vehicles mostly on what I want, not need. 40 miles EV range is plenty, even if the gas kicks in on the way home. But it’s gotta be fun and make me happy at the same time. So far, my truck accomplishes that even at 15mpg
I would not buy a hybrid, for me it would be all in with an electric car or gasoline as a second vehicle.
I have zero interest for any reason whatsoever to own a hybrid. I could care less about the cost of gasoline.
For my use makes absolute zero sense to me.
I have zero interest for any reason whatsoever to own a hybrid. I could care less about the cost of gasoline.
For my use makes absolute zero sense to me.
Right, I mean how would 30% lower fuel consumption make any sense?
Depends. I'd buy an ecvt style hybrid from toyota, honda, or ford in that order but I'd never buy something like a Hyundai hybrid with the dct. This is assuming long term 100k minimum. In the short term anything is fine especially if it's in warranty. It'd also be nice if we got more models in the US like the yaris hybrid and honda city and jazz hybrids Europe and parts of south America get. Many in this economy could use something not only more affordable to buy but also run and own long term. Can't save up and build wealth if you're paying a lot in interest because the principle is too high and also spending more on running costs and repairs.
Here again is a poster who makes way too much sense.
I've seen Fit hybrids overseas and something like that would be nice as an option here. There was a Yaris hybrid offered here as the Prius C, but it's now gone as is its world market successor.
There are still any number of buyers who'd like the option of a lower priced cheap to run car, but the manufacturers seem more inclined to offer higher margin vehicles. Too much work to sharpen up their pencils and come up with an appealing and efficient small car when they can simply offer larger, higher margin vehicles and the sheeple will keep on buying them, having little choice.
The Hoi Polloi now seem convinced that the minimum acceptable family vehicle for those not living at a poverty level wage is a four door half ton or largish SUV. A pity.
True and the reason why is because the us auto market was a sellers market for a longest time not a cutthroat buyers market which we're starting to phase into and how some other countries are. The people will stop buying which they slowly are doing and auto makers will need to start acting.
