Would this additive be good?

[TallPaul]

Synthetic Engine Oil Additive with 50% ester

Molybednum: 600 ppm
calcium: 2600 ppm
phosphorus: 1200 ppm
zinc: 1400 ppm

TBN: 8

Cost: Approx $4 for 16 ounces

 

[MolaKule]

Good for what?

 

[giant_robo]

good as an engine oil add'v. Sure.

Looks like it will almost 150 ppm of Mo when diluted.

 

[ebaker]

Synpower oil treatment has 3600 ppm moly and 2700 ppm Zn for $4. Probably no ester though.

 

[Curious Kid]

TallPaul,

What's the consistancy/viscosity of the additive?

ah, the itch for more additives!!!

Are you trying to push for longer OCI or just to added to the SM's levels in hopes of creating a buffer?

 

[TallPaul]

I am thinking this stuff would be good primarily as an ester add, but also you get a moly kick with it, and it would not thin out the ZDDP. I was inspired by the Castrol Magnatec Thread where someone posted an interesting abstract dealing with ester's antiwear function in small concentrations.

 

[ebaker]

What is the additive?

 

[TallPaul]

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Originally posted by ebaker:
What is the additive?

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Bet you all can guess based on some of my previous posts. It's my favorite "additive," which I brewed into the Aerostar's latest mix and was just (literally a half hour ago in the celler into an empty 5 quart oil jug) cooking up the F150 a batch of very thick 10w30 Napa synthetic that includes this add.

But I will tell you soon.

 

[Curious Kid]

Very interesting TP.

I wonder if Molakule is

as one plays?

 

[TallPaul]

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Originally posted by Terry:
Remember in addition to being very smart

Mola is a good shot too !

I prefer the baseball bat method, its more touchy feelie !


Tall, Get old Flash to come to BITOG and contribute.

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If I see Mola coming I may just take up Shannow on those Australian job offers.

Just went over and PM'd Flash an invite to the site. Hope he comes over. I did this before with Callisa at Noria.com (he is a Germany oil industry expert) and he came her for a bit. but then disappeared.

 

[Terry]

Yes, I think confrontation style and the noise of too many posting unlearned opinions vs asking to the point questions scares some away.

More questions and fewer but more accurate responses would be a good thing and a fine balance that Tony and Crew fight to achieve.

 

[TallPaul]

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Originally posted by Terry:
Yes, I think confrontation style and the noise of too many posting unlearned opinions vs asking to the point questions scares some away.

More questions and fewer but more accurate responses would be a good thing and a fine balance that Tony and Crew fight to achieve.

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I just wonder, maybe it would not be a good idea, but I will throw it out FWIW. Could there be a special forum for technical discussion by the "site experts." Some, obviously immediately qualify as "site experts" and others could earn that title. Only site experts could post in this forum. The rabble could visit the forum and learn, but post their misshapen

ideas in this forum instead. Of coures, the site experts could (and hopefully would) reply to threads on this forum too.

 

[mojo]

How and who would establish the criteria for being a site expert? that might be very interesting.

 

[TallPaul]

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Originally posted by mojo:
How and who would establish the criteria for being a site expert? that might be very interesting.

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I am afraid I am attempting to open a can of worms here. Perhaps, professionals would be a better criteria. Those working in the industry, MolaKule, Terry, Stinky, ... I don't know. As I said, probably won't work, but FWIW.

 

[bulwnkl]

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Originally posted by TallPaul:
...The additive data I posted above is rounded off numbers from a 5w30 Redline motor oil UOA. And I do believe it is a worthy additive...

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Holy cow! I was just thinking about 4 nights ago that I should add a quart of RedLine to my crankcase full of Exxon Superflo! I think it's a great idea!

 

[Terry]

I think the easy answer to that qualification is that what you post be accurate, insightful, and enlightening. This will be my last post....I just disqualified myself....

The board mods are the control mechanism and it is a tough job to do well.

 

[MolaKule]

TallPaul,

not trying to be confrontational or pert, just curious. When you didn't give any further info, I was scratching my head (and maybe a few other things).

Whye, Mola is just a little 'ol soft spoken Kentucky boy transplanted to Doo-Dah land.

Quite a few people use Redline to add esters and increase moly content. I always suggest when mixing or brewing to submit a VOA of the original mix and then follow up with UOA's with interpretation from Terry.

What works for Charley may not work in Sam's set-up.

 

[416Rigby]

Now I know why my Acura was so quiet running Redline. Kick myself for switching to Delvac 1.

 

[MGBV8]

Interesting reply on Molyslip, and was wondering if it would have any bearing on mixing Redline with different additive packs

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The problem is that your oil already has ZDDP and most likely that concentration is just right for the formulation. Adding more ZDDP might create an even greater antagonistic effect for the the Moly. Antagonistic effects means that the ZDDP might attack the MOs2 and render it incapable of attaching to the metal and creating that important "organometallic film" for
boundary lubrication.

 

[TallPaul]

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Originally posted by MolaKule:
TallPaul,

not trying to be confrontational or pert, just curious. When you didn't give any further info, I was scratching my head (and maybe a few other things).

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When you got an itch, scratch away.

Well I purposefully avoided saying what it was to see what reactions were. Did not get all the rave reviews I was hoping for, but it has turned into an interesting thread.