Would anyone here take a salaried job at Burger K?

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Originally Posted By: philipp10

How much is the difference between a union made GM and a comparable non-union Honda?

Or look at any other union made versus non-union made similar products and you will see that you have no basis for what you say.


But the non-union made companies are actually "profitable"....and don't require government subsidies in the form of bailouts. Honda prices their products for what the market will bear, which is affected by the UAW companies somewhat. [/quote]

Actually, not true. You are referring to the GM bailout, their problems were nto there because the labor was union. Look at Citibank, they got a bailout, far larger than GM and they are not union. GM is profitable now, Citi is still attached to the teet of the government.

GM was mismanaged. They had products that people did not want. They did not reserve a low risk pool for the current and mid term portion of their long term liabilities. You haven't heard the stories I have heard about the culture at the top layer of the company. And as we know, it all rolls downhill.
 
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
...but he earned that help.
Others whine and wait for a handout, which politicians have been promising and not delivering since the Roman Empire.


What a unique concept. Personal responsibility. Not likely to take root now, at this point.

I wish all veterans got the services they require...
 
The Burger King here has such a high turnover rate that the place is always bedlam with lots of yelling coming from the kitchen and drive-thru window area. The problem there seems to be that the drive-thru traffic affects the entire operation.We(I) finally got tired of the constant yelling there stopped going. Not going back ever again.
 
Problem with BK is that they are swimming upstream against a tide of competition-Wendy's & McDonald's have remodeled or rebuilt a large number of stores, & BK still has a lot of older, worn-out restaurants. Add a new corporate ownership group that seems to be milking them for all they can, it's lucky that many franchisees are even able to be open at all. I work for fast food every day-BK would be at the BOTTOM of the list of companies to work for, unless it was a last resort. Including teenage & retiree hourly crew.
 
@Kzmich You know, they make Hondas in Ohio and Indiana, right? Tariffs are imposed on imported products when our government wants to protect local production.

Your point is irrelevant.
 
Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Skip salaried type jobs if you know you will work extra.... without the extra pay.

I chose to stay hourly employee so I can rack up an extra $30+K in OT.


Nothing wrong with salary if you have a good package and fixed hours to go along with it.


+1 My job commands a good salary. Good benefits and has fixed hours with flexibility. It all depends on the company I think.
 
Originally Posted By: KzMitch
How much is the difference between a union made GM and a comparable non-union Honda?

How much is the tariff on the Honda?


You do know most of the Honda auto are built in the US right?
 
Originally Posted By: dr2152
Originally Posted By: KzMitch
How much is the difference between a union made GM and a comparable non-union Honda?

How much is the tariff on the Honda?


You do know most of the Honda auto are built in the US right?


All hot air and no substance in these kinds of arguments.
 
Originally Posted By: KzMitch
Originally Posted By: dishdude
This is one of the side effects of no union representation, employees get taken advantage of.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...ion#Post3763761


Yeah, that'll fix it.

Ladies and gentleman, presenting the $26.00 cheeseburger.
It's smaller than before.
It takes fifteen people to make it.
It costs 1.5X more if you want it on a weekend.
Cost will be double if that weekend is a holiday weekend.
Hope you're not hungry because it won't be ready today.
And if it's not done "your way", you'll have to file a grievance.

Oh yeah buddy, unions, there's a fantastic solution.


How much did Boeing lower the price of the 787 built in SC vs Washington? None
 
Ok, so how much is the tariff on the "Japan-built" Honda?

Quoting carsdirect.com :
American market Hybrid models, such as the Civic Hybrid, Insight and FCX Clarity, are produced in Japan. All of these models as well as the Honda Fit line are produced at the Honda production facility in Suzuka, Mie, Japan with exception of the FCX Clarity, which is produced solely in Takanezawa, Japan.

Honda cars destined for the US market are manufactured primarily in the United States, while cars requiring specialized technology and design (such as the newer hybrid and hydrogen fuel cell models) are made solely in Japan. Though some manufacturing does take place in Mexico, it is limited solely to production of the CR-V.

End quote.

Sorry if all this lack of substance and hot air confuses you.
 
Still hot air as you are avoiding a simple question. Let me repeat it:

How much is the difference between a union made GM and a comparable non-union Honda?


If it's imported from Japan, it is not comparable, is it?
 
Originally Posted By: dr2152
Originally Posted By: KzMitch
Originally Posted By: dishdude
This is one of the side effects of no union representation, employees get taken advantage of.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...ion#Post3763761


Yeah, that'll fix it.

Ladies and gentleman, presenting the $26.00 cheeseburger.
It's smaller than before.
It takes fifteen people to make it.
It costs 1.5X more if you want it on a weekend.
Cost will be double if that weekend is a holiday weekend.
Hope you're not hungry because it won't be ready today.
And if it's not done "your way", you'll have to file a grievance.

Oh yeah buddy, unions, there's a fantastic solution.


How much did Boeing lower the price of the 787 built in SC vs Washington? None
Why would or should they. It's one product line with one price.
 
Originally Posted By: KzMitch
Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
Originally Posted By: KzMitch
Originally Posted By: dishdude
This is one of the side effects of no union representation, employees get taken advantage of.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...ion#Post3763761


Yeah, that'll fix it.

Ladies and gentleman, presenting the $26.00 cheeseburger.
It's smaller than before.
It takes fifteen people to make it.
It costs 1.5X more if you want it on a weekend.
Cost will be double if that weekend is a holiday weekend.
Hope you're not hungry because it won't be ready today.
And if it's not done "your way", you'll have to file a grievance.

Oh yeah buddy, unions, there's a fantastic solution.


Why do you think a cheeseburger will cost $26?


Did I underestimate the union cost?
$32 maybe?
Higher still?
ROFLMAO!
 
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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Skip salaried type jobs if you know you will work extra.... without the extra pay.

I chose to stay hourly employee so I can rack up an extra $30+K in OT.


I am all about hourly as well. I don't make that much in OT but I usually get like 500 extra a month in OT. I love it.
 
I wouldn't get out of bed for less than 60,000 a year plus optional overtime... but then again im not looking for a job so....
 
Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
Still hot air as you are avoiding a simple question. Let me repeat it:

How much is the difference between a union made GM and a comparable non-union Honda?


If it's imported from Japan, it is not comparable, is it?


look at my Sig. I love, my Honda's / Acura's then again I love my Silverado... and heck.. that Milan been a good car so far too.... end of the day.. Honda/Acura..
 
Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
Still hot air as you are avoiding a simple question. Let me repeat it:

How much is the difference between a union made GM and a comparable non-union Honda?


If it's imported from Japan, it is not comparable, is it?


An honest question, so either ignore it or try to answer seriously:

Car cost:
1. Production
2. Marketing
3. Labor (pay + benefits (medical, pension (historical + current,) sick time, vacation, etc)))
4. Shipping (outside of "destination" which is passed on to us in most cases, including oceanic, rail, and road.)
5. Taxes + tariffs
6. Everything else I've missed

Based on the above, what is the effect of unionized labor?

What is the effect of fat pension, that probably isn't union-specific, that I don't believe foreign car manufactures are paying out currently (hearsay, not stated as fact)

I think this topic (a digression from the OP) requires a lot of thought and isn't as clear-cut as, "unions are extorsionistic" or "unions are the way to go in all cases!" including BK.
 
Originally Posted By: SLCraig
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Skip salaried type jobs if you know you will work extra.... without the extra pay.

I chose to stay hourly employee so I can rack up an extra $30+K in OT.


I am all about hourly as well. I don't make that much in OT but I usually get like 500 extra a month in OT. I love it.


$30,000 in OT yearly will not raise any eyebrows here if you can justify it.
 
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