Hey I've got no problems with cranks, as long as they admit it!
Wonder why GM is having trouble?
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Originally Posted By: mstrjon32
Originally Posted By: Ed_T
It isn't fair to blame those who choose to get as much 'bang for the buck' when purchasing a vehicle if they decide not to go 'big-three'.
I disagree. I think it's plenty fair. I'm not sure how many American hard-earn anything anymore, either. Take a look around, this is the entitlement generation.
I still maintain that if you think Toyota makes better cars than GM, you haven't been in a comparable GM in 10 years. It's not fair to compare your Aveo rental car to an Avalon either, so spare me those comments.
How about this one? In Oct. 2004 we bought a brand new Toyota Camry for my wife. It's the car she liked and fits her just perfect.
A couple of months later - we bought a brand new 2005 Chevrolet Trailblazer, mostly for me.
We still have both vehicles 4+ years later. Would you care to guess which vehicle has needed more repairs? The Chevy has been in the shop about 15 times in 4 years. Fan clutch, water pump, idler pulley, a/c problems, broken trim items, suspension problems - just to name a few.
The Camry? Once for a wheel alignment.
Now personally I'm not a big fan of Japanese cars. But, in my eyes the numbers speak for themselves. This was my first GM vehicle in about 25 years that I've owned - (I've worked on numerous others) but unless GM makes some drastic improvements it will be my last.
Originally Posted By: Ed_T
It isn't fair to blame those who choose to get as much 'bang for the buck' when purchasing a vehicle if they decide not to go 'big-three'.
I disagree. I think it's plenty fair. I'm not sure how many American hard-earn anything anymore, either. Take a look around, this is the entitlement generation.
I still maintain that if you think Toyota makes better cars than GM, you haven't been in a comparable GM in 10 years. It's not fair to compare your Aveo rental car to an Avalon either, so spare me those comments.
How about this one? In Oct. 2004 we bought a brand new Toyota Camry for my wife. It's the car she liked and fits her just perfect.
A couple of months later - we bought a brand new 2005 Chevrolet Trailblazer, mostly for me.
We still have both vehicles 4+ years later. Would you care to guess which vehicle has needed more repairs? The Chevy has been in the shop about 15 times in 4 years. Fan clutch, water pump, idler pulley, a/c problems, broken trim items, suspension problems - just to name a few.
The Camry? Once for a wheel alignment.
Now personally I'm not a big fan of Japanese cars. But, in my eyes the numbers speak for themselves. This was my first GM vehicle in about 25 years that I've owned - (I've worked on numerous others) but unless GM makes some drastic improvements it will be my last.
oldman
you are probably an exception, or I bet ya, like previous very smart poster mentioned, have not the read the manaul for your wonderfully built trail blazer which may be contributing to it falling apart ;-)
on our accord with nearly 200k miles, one of the big item was the alternator, went out at 90k miles. guess who supplied it?
Delphi
I remember 15 yrs back in omaha and lincoln et kc, mo most grandma und grandpa's drove big ol big 3 made vehicles. before I moved out kc I remember noticing the switch to corollas and camrys. when ya get kicked in the gonads things change.
dealerships are part responsible for doing stuff like $1000 gasket changes for transmission leak....etc
you are probably an exception, or I bet ya, like previous very smart poster mentioned, have not the read the manaul for your wonderfully built trail blazer which may be contributing to it falling apart ;-)
on our accord with nearly 200k miles, one of the big item was the alternator, went out at 90k miles. guess who supplied it?
Delphi
I remember 15 yrs back in omaha and lincoln et kc, mo most grandma und grandpa's drove big ol big 3 made vehicles. before I moved out kc I remember noticing the switch to corollas and camrys. when ya get kicked in the gonads things change.
dealerships are part responsible for doing stuff like $1000 gasket changes for transmission leak....etc
Originally Posted By: stockrex
oldman
you are probably an exception, or I bet ya, like previous very smart poster mentioned, have not the read the manaul for your wonderfully built trail blazer which may be contributing to it falling apart ;-)
Huh? I'm an exception? Go read at Trailblazer forums. There are a couple of members here that have had them as well with similiar problems.
Those problems are from me not reading the manual? I seriously hope that was some sort of weird stupid joke.
For the record I've read every manual available. What that has to do with the poor workmanship and in some cases bad design on a vehicle I don't know.
Maybe some of you SMART people could enlighten me!
Edit: Okay, I reread your post and I see your were being sarcastic. I'm a little slow today.
oldman
you are probably an exception, or I bet ya, like previous very smart poster mentioned, have not the read the manaul for your wonderfully built trail blazer which may be contributing to it falling apart ;-)
Huh? I'm an exception? Go read at Trailblazer forums. There are a couple of members here that have had them as well with similiar problems.
Those problems are from me not reading the manual? I seriously hope that was some sort of weird stupid joke.
For the record I've read every manual available. What that has to do with the poor workmanship and in some cases bad design on a vehicle I don't know.
Maybe some of you SMART people could enlighten me!
Edit: Okay, I reread your post and I see your were being sarcastic. I'm a little slow today.
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JTK
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Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
..The Chevy has been in the shop about 15 times in 4 years. Fan clutch, water pump, idler pulley, a/c problems, broken trim items, suspension problems - just to name a few.
The Camry? Once for a wheel alignment.
Dang, you definitely got bit by ALL the classic GM T360 chassis issues! I only had my used 2005 for ~1.5yrs and maybe 12Kmi so I kinda skated, but yes, those are inexcusable issues for such a truck.
Joel
..The Chevy has been in the shop about 15 times in 4 years. Fan clutch, water pump, idler pulley, a/c problems, broken trim items, suspension problems - just to name a few.
The Camry? Once for a wheel alignment.
Dang, you definitely got bit by ALL the classic GM T360 chassis issues! I only had my used 2005 for ~1.5yrs and maybe 12Kmi so I kinda skated, but yes, those are inexcusable issues for such a truck.
Joel
Originally Posted By: JTK
Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
..The Chevy has been in the shop about 15 times in 4 years. Fan clutch, water pump, idler pulley, a/c problems, broken trim items, suspension problems - just to name a few.
The Camry? Once for a wheel alignment.
Dang, you definitely got bit by ALL the classic GM T360 chassis issues! I only had my used 2005 for ~1.5yrs and maybe 12Kmi so I kinda skated, but yes, those are inexcusable issues for such a truck.
Joel
Yeah, no kidding. I don't know if you still read over at Trailvoy, but we are getting a lot of new people. I mean a LOT. Most of them come because they are having problems. A few people have had problems with the engine cylinder heads. Supposedly the valve seat isn't properly installed and the only fix is to replace the head - which is very labor intensive and expensive. Someone said $3,000 - $4,000
Sad thing is I've been trying to sell this thing for the last year or so. For some reason, it seems nobody wants a Chevy SUV!
Funny thing is - most of the major mechanical problems started about or right at the 2 year mark. Some of the body stuff was pretty much there from day one. Like the gasket around the license plate thing. That's been replaced two or three times and needs to be replaced again. Or the problem with the wind noise around the drivers door.
Pretty sad for a truck that MSRP was over 33,000.00
Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
..The Chevy has been in the shop about 15 times in 4 years. Fan clutch, water pump, idler pulley, a/c problems, broken trim items, suspension problems - just to name a few.
The Camry? Once for a wheel alignment.
Dang, you definitely got bit by ALL the classic GM T360 chassis issues! I only had my used 2005 for ~1.5yrs and maybe 12Kmi so I kinda skated, but yes, those are inexcusable issues for such a truck.
Joel
Yeah, no kidding. I don't know if you still read over at Trailvoy, but we are getting a lot of new people. I mean a LOT. Most of them come because they are having problems. A few people have had problems with the engine cylinder heads. Supposedly the valve seat isn't properly installed and the only fix is to replace the head - which is very labor intensive and expensive. Someone said $3,000 - $4,000
Sad thing is I've been trying to sell this thing for the last year or so. For some reason, it seems nobody wants a Chevy SUV!
Funny thing is - most of the major mechanical problems started about or right at the 2 year mark. Some of the body stuff was pretty much there from day one. Like the gasket around the license plate thing. That's been replaced two or three times and needs to be replaced again. Or the problem with the wind noise around the drivers door.
Pretty sad for a truck that MSRP was over 33,000.00
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Originally Posted By: mstrjon32
Originally Posted By: Ed_T
Buying a new GM//Chrysler//Ford is like putting a blowtorch to your money given the immediate cliff depreciation that occurs. It's expensive to support these patriotic badges. One has got to be willing to take more than one for the team.
And buying a new Toyota/Honda is like adding more fuel to the fire that is destroying America's industrial base. It's expensive to support stupidity that buys Toyota when they have just as many problems as GM cars.
I love the way that when someone buys a Toyota and it's a total POS they forgive all the problems, but you hear about a GM car that went 60K miles and needed a set of rear brakes and suddenly it's total garbage.
That is about the most rediculous statement I have read in a while.
Originally Posted By: Ed_T
Buying a new GM//Chrysler//Ford is like putting a blowtorch to your money given the immediate cliff depreciation that occurs. It's expensive to support these patriotic badges. One has got to be willing to take more than one for the team.
And buying a new Toyota/Honda is like adding more fuel to the fire that is destroying America's industrial base. It's expensive to support stupidity that buys Toyota when they have just as many problems as GM cars.
I love the way that when someone buys a Toyota and it's a total POS they forgive all the problems, but you hear about a GM car that went 60K miles and needed a set of rear brakes and suddenly it's total garbage.
That is about the most rediculous statement I have read in a while.
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Fuel pumps go up. And you're complaining about needing brakes on a car that's 5-6yrs old???? It's a wear item!
Especially on a female-driven car.
Fuel pumps go up. And you're complaining about needing brakes on a car that's 5-6yrs old???? It's a wear item!
Especially on a female-driven car.
Originally Posted By: ViragoBry
I regularly drove 60+mph on I-90 between Gillette and Rapid City on snow and ice, because you could do it up there without crashing into someone else.
I once got stuck in a snowstorm on I70 between Breezewood and I81, and I was going 35MPH and passing most everyone else on the road. Going 65MPH in that stuff would have been a sure way to go off the side of the road, as the interstate curves to the left while your car goes straight...
I regularly drove 60+mph on I-90 between Gillette and Rapid City on snow and ice, because you could do it up there without crashing into someone else.
I once got stuck in a snowstorm on I70 between Breezewood and I81, and I was going 35MPH and passing most everyone else on the road. Going 65MPH in that stuff would have been a sure way to go off the side of the road, as the interstate curves to the left while your car goes straight...
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Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
Originally Posted By: JTK
Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
..The Chevy has been in the shop about 15 times in 4 years. Fan clutch, water pump, idler pulley, a/c problems, broken trim items, suspension problems - just to name a few.
The Camry? Once for a wheel alignment.
Dang, you definitely got bit by ALL the classic GM T360 chassis issues! I only had my used 2005 for ~1.5yrs and maybe 12Kmi so I kinda skated, but yes, those are inexcusable issues for such a truck.
Joel
Yeah, no kidding. I don't know if you still read over at Trailvoy, but we are getting a lot of new people. I mean a LOT. Most of them come because they are having problems. A few people have had problems with the engine cylinder heads. Supposedly the valve seat isn't properly installed and the only fix is to replace the head - which is very labor intensive and expensive. Someone said $3,000 - $4,000
Sad thing is I've been trying to sell this thing for the last year or so. For some reason, it seems nobody wants a Chevy SUV!
Funny thing is - most of the major mechanical problems started about or right at the 2 year mark. Some of the body stuff was pretty much there from day one. Like the gasket around the license plate thing. That's been replaced two or three times and needs to be replaced again. Or the problem with the wind noise around the drivers door.
Pretty sad for a truck that MSRP was over 33,000.00
Sadly, I'm just glad they stopped making the TB...While the Blazer was famous the the Nickel and Dime thing (though the 4.3 and drivetrain ran forever), the 360s have been nothing but a headache for us GM people.
My aunt had a TB (06), and with 60k she has only had a few problems, as has my neighbor with his 05 (74k). But a good friend of mine works at a large GM dealership...and all he can say is-NO! I was planning on buying a used one, but after those stories......
Usually GM makes some solid trucks (besides the few annoying issues on the silverados), but I cannot really say anything good about the 360s....
Originally Posted By: JTK
Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
..The Chevy has been in the shop about 15 times in 4 years. Fan clutch, water pump, idler pulley, a/c problems, broken trim items, suspension problems - just to name a few.
The Camry? Once for a wheel alignment.
Dang, you definitely got bit by ALL the classic GM T360 chassis issues! I only had my used 2005 for ~1.5yrs and maybe 12Kmi so I kinda skated, but yes, those are inexcusable issues for such a truck.
Joel
Yeah, no kidding. I don't know if you still read over at Trailvoy, but we are getting a lot of new people. I mean a LOT. Most of them come because they are having problems. A few people have had problems with the engine cylinder heads. Supposedly the valve seat isn't properly installed and the only fix is to replace the head - which is very labor intensive and expensive. Someone said $3,000 - $4,000
Sad thing is I've been trying to sell this thing for the last year or so. For some reason, it seems nobody wants a Chevy SUV!
Funny thing is - most of the major mechanical problems started about or right at the 2 year mark. Some of the body stuff was pretty much there from day one. Like the gasket around the license plate thing. That's been replaced two or three times and needs to be replaced again. Or the problem with the wind noise around the drivers door.
Pretty sad for a truck that MSRP was over 33,000.00
Sadly, I'm just glad they stopped making the TB...While the Blazer was famous the the Nickel and Dime thing (though the 4.3 and drivetrain ran forever), the 360s have been nothing but a headache for us GM people.
My aunt had a TB (06), and with 60k she has only had a few problems, as has my neighbor with his 05 (74k). But a good friend of mine works at a large GM dealership...and all he can say is-NO! I was planning on buying a used one, but after those stories......
Usually GM makes some solid trucks (besides the few annoying issues on the silverados), but I cannot really say anything good about the 360s....
I am a member of other forums, one of them being a Trailblazer forum. Many of us have noticed that after replacing the "bad" parts that these vehicles came from the factory with, they seem to run a long time with very little trouble.
We've had a lot of people over the 150 - 200K mile mark.
For example, the fan clutches seem to fail within about 2 years. But most of them time after replacing them with the new design, they last a long time. Mine was replaced under warranty and I've had no trouble with it since (about 2 1/2 years ago).
Same with the water pumps.
Many people have had trouble with the factory batteries (myself included). The sides start to bulge and/or leak acid after a couple of years. This is not only the Trailblazers, but a lot of other GM vehicles as well.
I really think GM needs to up the quality of some of the parts from their suppliers.
On the other hand many of us have gone a long time on the factory brakes. Some have claimed over 100K miles. I have over 50K miles on mine and I still have all the original brake parts with no problems at all.
We've had a lot of people over the 150 - 200K mile mark.
For example, the fan clutches seem to fail within about 2 years. But most of them time after replacing them with the new design, they last a long time. Mine was replaced under warranty and I've had no trouble with it since (about 2 1/2 years ago).
Same with the water pumps.
Many people have had trouble with the factory batteries (myself included). The sides start to bulge and/or leak acid after a couple of years. This is not only the Trailblazers, but a lot of other GM vehicles as well.
I really think GM needs to up the quality of some of the parts from their suppliers.
On the other hand many of us have gone a long time on the factory brakes. Some have claimed over 100K miles. I have over 50K miles on mine and I still have all the original brake parts with no problems at all.
JTK
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Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
...Yeah, no kidding. I don't know if you still read over at Trailvoy, but we are getting a lot of new people. I mean a LOT. Most of them come because they are having problems.
Hey thanks for asking, but I sure haven't. That is a good board though. I was fortunate to trade the TB for my Cobalt back in June '07, when gas was just starting to get out of control. Actually made out pretty well. Trade-in allowance paid off what I owed and got me a new Cobalt for ~$8K out the door. I'm with you though, once you replace the common faulty OEM stuff on your T360, they are a really nice vehicle. It's a shame. GM should have done more with the (supposed) "World Class" Atlas/Vortec 4.2L I6. Perhaps a manual trans option, 5+ speeed automatics to increase MPG, etc.. Who would throw the resources at designing an engine to only go in one vehicle? GM.
Joel
...Yeah, no kidding. I don't know if you still read over at Trailvoy, but we are getting a lot of new people. I mean a LOT. Most of them come because they are having problems.
Hey thanks for asking, but I sure haven't. That is a good board though. I was fortunate to trade the TB for my Cobalt back in June '07, when gas was just starting to get out of control. Actually made out pretty well. Trade-in allowance paid off what I owed and got me a new Cobalt for ~$8K out the door. I'm with you though, once you replace the common faulty OEM stuff on your T360, they are a really nice vehicle. It's a shame. GM should have done more with the (supposed) "World Class" Atlas/Vortec 4.2L I6. Perhaps a manual trans option, 5+ speeed automatics to increase MPG, etc.. Who would throw the resources at designing an engine to only go in one vehicle? GM.
Joel
Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
I am a member of other forums, one of them being a Trailblazer forum. Many of us have noticed that after replacing the "bad" parts that these vehicles came from the factory with, they seem to run a long time with very little trouble.
We've had a lot of people over the 150 - 200K mile mark.
For example, the fan clutches seem to fail within about 2 years. But most of them time after replacing them with the new design, they last a long time. Mine was replaced under warranty and I've had no trouble with it since (about 2 1/2 years ago).
Same with the water pumps.
Many people have had trouble with the factory batteries (myself included). The sides start to bulge and/or leak acid after a couple of years. This is not only the Trailblazers, but a lot of other GM vehicles as well.
I really think GM needs to up the quality of some of the parts from their suppliers.
On the other hand many of us have gone a long time on the factory brakes. Some have claimed over 100K miles. I have over 50K miles on mine and I still have all the original brake parts with no problems at all.
Well, I'm glad at least some are doing well...
I picked up a part for a friend's Lumina at the local yard, and I was surprised at the number of TBs that were in there. I checked the odo on a few...79k, 131k. Not impressed. There were smashed ones too..oddly-most were rear ended.
I couldn't tell if it was that "lights out " tail light issue, or just sheer luck.....
I am a member of other forums, one of them being a Trailblazer forum. Many of us have noticed that after replacing the "bad" parts that these vehicles came from the factory with, they seem to run a long time with very little trouble.
We've had a lot of people over the 150 - 200K mile mark.
For example, the fan clutches seem to fail within about 2 years. But most of them time after replacing them with the new design, they last a long time. Mine was replaced under warranty and I've had no trouble with it since (about 2 1/2 years ago).
Same with the water pumps.
Many people have had trouble with the factory batteries (myself included). The sides start to bulge and/or leak acid after a couple of years. This is not only the Trailblazers, but a lot of other GM vehicles as well.
I really think GM needs to up the quality of some of the parts from their suppliers.
On the other hand many of us have gone a long time on the factory brakes. Some have claimed over 100K miles. I have over 50K miles on mine and I still have all the original brake parts with no problems at all.
Well, I'm glad at least some are doing well...
I picked up a part for a friend's Lumina at the local yard, and I was surprised at the number of TBs that were in there. I checked the odo on a few...79k, 131k. Not impressed. There were smashed ones too..oddly-most were rear ended.
I couldn't tell if it was that "lights out " tail light issue, or just sheer luck.....
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Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
I am a member of other forums, one of them being a Trailblazer forum. Many of us have noticed that after replacing the "bad" parts that these vehicles came from the factory with, they seem to run a long time with very little trouble.
We've had a lot of people over the 150 - 200K mile mark.
For example, the fan clutches seem to fail within about 2 years. But most of them time after replacing them with the new design, they last a long time. Mine was replaced under warranty and I've had no trouble with it since (about 2 1/2 years ago).
Same with the water pumps.
Many people have had trouble with the factory batteries (myself included). The sides start to bulge and/or leak acid after a couple of years. This is not only the Trailblazers, but a lot of other GM vehicles as well.
I really think GM needs to up the quality of some of the parts from their suppliers.
On the other hand many of us have gone a long time on the factory brakes. Some have claimed over 100K miles. I have over 50K miles on mine and I still have all the original brake parts with no problems at all.
I picked up a part for a friend's Lumina at the local yard, and I was surprised at the number of TBs that were in there. I checked the odo on a few...79k, 131k. Not impressed. There were smashed ones too..oddly-most were rear ended.
I couldn't tell if it was that "lights out " tail light issue, or just sheer luck.....
Just curious - but how could you tell what the mileage was? They all had a battery and the key in the ignition?
Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
I am a member of other forums, one of them being a Trailblazer forum. Many of us have noticed that after replacing the "bad" parts that these vehicles came from the factory with, they seem to run a long time with very little trouble.
We've had a lot of people over the 150 - 200K mile mark.
For example, the fan clutches seem to fail within about 2 years. But most of them time after replacing them with the new design, they last a long time. Mine was replaced under warranty and I've had no trouble with it since (about 2 1/2 years ago).
Same with the water pumps.
Many people have had trouble with the factory batteries (myself included). The sides start to bulge and/or leak acid after a couple of years. This is not only the Trailblazers, but a lot of other GM vehicles as well.
I really think GM needs to up the quality of some of the parts from their suppliers.
On the other hand many of us have gone a long time on the factory brakes. Some have claimed over 100K miles. I have over 50K miles on mine and I still have all the original brake parts with no problems at all.
I picked up a part for a friend's Lumina at the local yard, and I was surprised at the number of TBs that were in there. I checked the odo on a few...79k, 131k. Not impressed. There were smashed ones too..oddly-most were rear ended.
I couldn't tell if it was that "lights out " tail light issue, or just sheer luck.....
Just curious - but how could you tell what the mileage was? They all had a battery and the key in the ignition?
I don't know about the Trailblazer but most cars with digital odometers display the mileage for a few seconds after opening the driver door. The battery would still have to be connected, obviously.
Originally Posted By: mstrjon32
I don't know about the Trailblazer but most cars with digital odometers display the mileage for a few seconds after opening the driver door. The battery would still have to be connected, obviously.
I agree, but that is not true of the trailblazer. When the key is off, so if the display.
That also assumes you have the keys to the vehicle. I've been to a lot of junk yards, and most don't have a battery or the keys in them.
I don't know about the Trailblazer but most cars with digital odometers display the mileage for a few seconds after opening the driver door. The battery would still have to be connected, obviously.
I agree, but that is not true of the trailblazer. When the key is off, so if the display.
That also assumes you have the keys to the vehicle. I've been to a lot of junk yards, and most don't have a battery or the keys in them.
JTK
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Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
I agree, but that is not true of the trailblazer. When the key is off, so if the display.
That also assumes you have the keys to the vehicle. I've been to a lot of junk yards, and most don't have a battery or the keys in them.
Right on. I also find it hard to believe junk yards are loaded with tired, worn out, spent, etc... Trailblazers given they didn't come out until 2002. Having owned one, I'm certainly not defending them. IMO they are yet another shining example of why GM is where they're at.
Joel
I agree, but that is not true of the trailblazer. When the key is off, so if the display.
That also assumes you have the keys to the vehicle. I've been to a lot of junk yards, and most don't have a battery or the keys in them.
Right on. I also find it hard to believe junk yards are loaded with tired, worn out, spent, etc... Trailblazers given they didn't come out until 2002. Having owned one, I'm certainly not defending them. IMO they are yet another shining example of why GM is where they're at.
Joel
at my job, there are 2 TB's, one I've been in a few times. he has over 100K on it, IIRC, only reg main items. oh, the CEL did come on the other day he said.
it seems to be a nice truck, although not much more side to side room than my VUE, and no 3rd row in his version. I'd rather have an outlook/enclave.
it seems to be a nice truck, although not much more side to side room than my VUE, and no 3rd row in his version. I'd rather have an outlook/enclave.
Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
I am a member of other forums, one of them being a Trailblazer forum. Many of us have noticed that after replacing the "bad" parts that these vehicles came from the factory with, they seem to run a long time with very little trouble.
We've had a lot of people over the 150 - 200K mile mark.
For example, the fan clutches seem to fail within about 2 years. But most of them time after replacing them with the new design, they last a long time. Mine was replaced under warranty and I've had no trouble with it since (about 2 1/2 years ago).
Same with the water pumps.
Many people have had trouble with the factory batteries (myself included). The sides start to bulge and/or leak acid after a couple of years. This is not only the Trailblazers, but a lot of other GM vehicles as well.
I really think GM needs to up the quality of some of the parts from their suppliers.
On the other hand many of us have gone a long time on the factory brakes. Some have claimed over 100K miles. I have over 50K miles on mine and I still have all the original brake parts with no problems at all.
I picked up a part for a friend's Lumina at the local yard, and I was surprised at the number of TBs that were in there. I checked the odo on a few...79k, 131k. Not impressed. There were smashed ones too..oddly-most were rear ended.
I couldn't tell if it was that "lights out " tail light issue, or just sheer luck.....
Just curious - but how could you tell what the mileage was? They all had a battery and the key in the ignition?
Actually,yes. ( I was waiting for someone to ask)
Both TBs were being stripped for parts (one inside, one out) to help fix the front end of a guy's smashed TB. And both had keys...
Also forgot to mention that the 131K one died due to lack of oil...sad. Poor TB.
Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
I am a member of other forums, one of them being a Trailblazer forum. Many of us have noticed that after replacing the "bad" parts that these vehicles came from the factory with, they seem to run a long time with very little trouble.
We've had a lot of people over the 150 - 200K mile mark.
For example, the fan clutches seem to fail within about 2 years. But most of them time after replacing them with the new design, they last a long time. Mine was replaced under warranty and I've had no trouble with it since (about 2 1/2 years ago).
Same with the water pumps.
Many people have had trouble with the factory batteries (myself included). The sides start to bulge and/or leak acid after a couple of years. This is not only the Trailblazers, but a lot of other GM vehicles as well.
I really think GM needs to up the quality of some of the parts from their suppliers.
On the other hand many of us have gone a long time on the factory brakes. Some have claimed over 100K miles. I have over 50K miles on mine and I still have all the original brake parts with no problems at all.
I picked up a part for a friend's Lumina at the local yard, and I was surprised at the number of TBs that were in there. I checked the odo on a few...79k, 131k. Not impressed. There were smashed ones too..oddly-most were rear ended.
I couldn't tell if it was that "lights out " tail light issue, or just sheer luck.....
Just curious - but how could you tell what the mileage was? They all had a battery and the key in the ignition?
Actually,yes. ( I was waiting for someone to ask)
Both TBs were being stripped for parts (one inside, one out) to help fix the front end of a guy's smashed TB. And both had keys...
Also forgot to mention that the 131K one died due to lack of oil...sad. Poor TB.
Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Also forgot to mention that the 131K one died due to lack of oil...sad. Poor TB.
I feel a story coming on.
Also forgot to mention that the 131K one died due to lack of oil...sad. Poor TB.
I feel a story coming on.
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