Wish we got the HiLux in the U.S.

[GON]

Don't like them. Windshield is too raked so I always hit my head, especially when wearing body armor.

Then go Hollywood.......

 

[TiGeo]

I would no longer consider buying any new diesel today in this country. EGR emission systems have these engines so choked up, they're having nothing but trouble with them.

And understandably so. Nothing is going to perform right if it has to eat what it craps.

Where is that info and data coming from?

 

[97prizm]

This is debated Ad Nauseum on the Tacoma World forum. Honestly I feel sales will be good at first if it came here. Then die a slow death. I guess if you like government bureaucracy you could import one from Mexico, after it clears US requirements.

It would have to be 25 years old, or spend roughly $2 million dollars EPA certifying it for Carb and non-carb states. Change out the seatbelts, dash, lights ( The USA and everyone else can't agree on regulations) and this would be just for gas models and automatic. Add manual and Diesel and spend another $2-4 million. It shouldn't be this difficult but...

 

[97prizm]

The HiLux seems to be rather popular in certain areas of Mexico and more so on the African and South American continents……….

I'm betting Mexican and African region Hiluxes don't have low sulfur diesel, nor egr and other emissions equipment installed.

 

[burbguy82]

Where is that info and data coming from?

really?

 

[TiGeo]

really?

Yes. Blanket statement. Back it up.

 

[billt460]

Where is that info and data coming from?

Pretty much anywhere you care to take the time to look. It's not going to find you. This took 5 minutes. If you need more let me know.

 

[billt460]

Here's a few more just for good measure.

 

[TiGeo]

Ok cool, some YouTube videos mean "they're having nothing but trouble with them" applying to all modern diesels. Got it.

 

[billt460]

I posted this in another thread, but it bears repeating here as well. Yet another expensive dud to add to the list of "modern diesel" engine failure nightmares.

And even if you're fortunate enough to not have your pressed on cam drive gear get loose and slip on these abortions, you'll be greeted with a manifold that looks like this in as little as 60,000 miles, that will require replacement. What's not to like?

https://carbuzz.com/news/why-new-ecodiesel-owners-need-to-beware-of-engine-failure/

 

[burbguy82]

Yes. Blanket statement. Back it up.

Well, there is plenty of content to show.

IMO opinion, it is an incompatibility of design, fuel, maintenance, and usage.

I agree the blanket is not always accurate.

 

[goingplacesanddoingstuff]

The 1964 US Chicken Tax effectively prevents Toyota from importing the Hilux through a 25% tariff on imported light trucks.

The Chicken Tax applies to vehicles that are:

1. Classified as light-duty trucks or vans
2. Have a gross vehicle weight rating under 10,000 pounds
3. Are produced outside of North America

The Hilux falls into these categories, unfortunately. This tariff significantly increases the cost of bringing foreign-made pickup trucks into the US market, and desperately needs to be revised in my opinion.

Rumor has it Toyota will be revealing a Ford Maverick competitor in the US soon, though.

 

[350Rocket]

Ok cool, some YouTube videos mean "they're having nothing but trouble with them" applying to all modern diesels. Got it.

Are you really going to try to say modern diesels don't have a reliability problem?

 

[TiGeo]

Are you really going to try to say modern diesels don't have a reliability problem?

I have not seen data to substantiate that. Show me the data as in x diesels produced and y had issues. TIA.

 

[billt460]

Are you really going to try to say modern diesels don't have a reliability problem?

This is a really good article that explains in a 7 reason, slide show format, why modern diesel engines are far less reliable today than their older counterparts. They have become over complicated, and much more expensive.

And they are far more failure prone and costly as a direct result. DPF, EGR, and DEF systems are just a few of the many reasons why.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/how-tos...s-are-less-reliable-and-more-expensive-926900

 

[02SE]

I'll just say that my 7 year old Dually Diesel has had no issues to date.

 

[Bjornviken]

I would no longer consider buying any new diesel today in this country. EGR emission systems have these engines so choked up, they're having nothing but trouble with them.

And understandably so. Nothing is going to perform right if it has to eat what it craps.

never had any problems with the EGRS in my Toyota diesel engines, and not in my Honda Civic 1.6 diesel engine either. But they are brands that have problems with the egr cooling system that can coke up the hole engine. Most problematic in today's diesel engines are the SCR system, at least in my country, since the add blue is freezing at -11C

 

[billt460]

never had any problems with the EGRS in my Toyota diesel engines, and not in my Honda Civic 1.6 diesel engine either. But they are brands that have problems with the egr cooling system that can coke up the hole engine. Most problematic in today's diesel engines are the SCR system, at least in my country, since the add blue is freezing at -11C

In general I think the smaller displacement diesels are less problem prone than the larger V8's. This simply because they consume less fuel.

The more fuel that is burned, the more soot there is to contend with. All of that crap has to go somewhere if it can't exit the tailpipe.

Years back, (1979), I had a Volkswagen Diesel, and it ran like a Rolex for over 150,000 miles. It got an honest 50+ MPG. But this was well before DEF, EGR, DPF, and all of the other crap they're clogging up these modern diesel engines with.