Ask GM and Ford why the 5 mile long chain is better. I’ll wait.
It wouldn't be nearly as big of a deal if the engines that use a belt were exclusively non-interference types. Then you could just run the belt as long as you want, with only the risk of the engine quitting. Unfortunately, Honda's TB engines are all interference engines...My 96’ Jeep had to have the chain replaced about 6-7 years ago as it stretched and caused a misfire CEL. I think around 120k-130k miles.
My Camry’s timing belt broke 2 years ago, just a little past it’s replacement interval. It’s non-interference so no engine damage, and cheap to replace. For that car it doesn’t bother me. If I keep it long enough, I’ll let it break again. I won’t plan to replace it.
I don’t think I’ll buy another timing belt car again though.
That and how difficult it is to replace depending on the car, makes it more expensive. On my Camry, I paid my mechanic $475 so it wasn’t too bad, not too o or intensive on this 4 cylinder.It wouldn't be nearly as big of a deal if the engines that use a belt were exclusively non-interference types. Then you could just run the belt as long as you want, with only the risk of the engine quitting. Unfortunately, Honda's TB engines are all interference engines...
I prefer chains over belts but it comes with a HUGE qualifier. Quality chains! IIRC there was a series of GM engines that had issues with chains. Issues traced back to inferior quality chains used. I'm sure GM was not the only one but it is the manufacturer I remember.
Because when it’s time for the belt to be replaced the owner just trades it in for another one. For Honda it’s a win win.I don't get it. Chains are far superior, yet Honda keeps using belts...makes no sense...
I don't know where you're hearing about all of these chain failures, but I haven't heard anything of the sort. In fact, most of what I hear is just the opposite. If only all vehicles that had belts were as easy to replace as your VW was, that would be one thing, but unfortunately, most vehicles are way more difficult and time consuming...
I can change a Honda V6 timing belt and tensioner in under 2 hours, add 20 minutes-ish for water pump and idler etcWe used to drive a 1982 Volvo DL. The two door coupe. 4 speed manual with overdrive. 4 cylinder OHC motor. My wife's and my first brand new car. IPD springs, Bilstein, those ubiquitous 5 spoke alloy Volvo wheels of the era. We loved that thing and put 200K miles on it. Aside from a clutch that car was FLAWLESS.
I replaced the timing belt 2 or 3 times. There was lots of space to work which made the job easy. Doing the timing belt on a V6 Honda motor will much harder, guaranteed, just because of accessibility. The timing belt itself is not the hard part. Getting to it is.
Scott
Who in their right mind is going to just run a maintenance item as long as they want? That’s great, just run until you’re stranded on the side of the road. Blame the vehicle or automaker for making unreliable vehicles Or expecting people to pay to keep them up…It wouldn't be nearly as big of a deal if the engines that use a belt were exclusively non-interference types. Then you could just run the belt as long as you want, with only the risk of the engine quitting. Unfortunately, Honda's TB engines are all interference engines...
I can change a Honda V6 timing belt and tensioner in under 2 hours, add 20 minutes-ish for water pump and idler etc
Or snap-off the hydraulic tensioner bolt. Seen that a few times as well.Most first timers would spend that long getting the Crank Bolt off &/or break the Hydraulic Drive Belt Tensioner thinking it works like a spring loaded one.
watch this video on an Audi A8, this more than any other reason displays why a belt is superior to a chain.
the repair cost often exceeds the residual value of the car, sometimes in exponential means
Most timing chains or rather chain guides and tensioners will not last that long without eventual component replacement along the way. Other than that your Corolla has the bestest engine evahr you also have gotten lucky.My Corolla has 423K miles on the original chain...tell me how belts are better...
Change a V10 timing cassette and you'll swear off gears forever!Why no love for gears, who doesn't love that particular grinding noise that Iron Dukes make, you always know when the mail is coming.