Why do we let China have anything to do with our FOOD and DRUGS?

[Pablo]

They’re owned by followers of the Falun Gong movement. And as such they are fervently anti-PRC. That’s been their schtick since they were founded.

Why call it a "schtick"? Are they wrong? Most people in the USA don't even know what Falun Gong is and China uses that in it's favor as well.

I mean most (80%) of our media, well all of our media, is very very biased one way or another. Are they always wrong?

Frankly our media should be at least very skeptical of China and it's supporters.

 

[dbias]

Real Estate whether it be land, farm land or housing has become a hot commodity for the investment sector and is driving prices and rents up. JD Whatever his name is this week is one of the investors in AcreTrader which is a player in this space.
The American economy is literally the best in the world no matter what the boogeyman says Ad nauseam and the major reason is our system of a law and order rules based system.
The dollar is not directly manipulated as the Ruble or Yuan is by their dictatorial governments and therefore garners more trust among investors.
Is our system perfect? Of course not but it performs better than all others and that’s why serious investors and just people in general desire to be here. Do Russia, China, North Korea or Iran have immigration problems? Umm, No they don’t and the aging and outward migration (literally fleeing) of their populations will hinder their growth and productivity into the future.
Other than J6 I’m very proud and optimistic to a citizen of the greatest nation on earth.

 

[Owen Lucas]

You all do know who owns The Epoch Times? It can't be considered an impartial source about anything, especially China.

https://www.the-independent.com/new...hina-virus-xinhua-hell-epidemic-a9400811.html

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6142417728001

 

[4WD]

Why call it a "schtick"? Are they wrong? Most people in the USA don't even know what Falun Gong is and China uses that in it's favor as well.

I mean most (80%) of our media, well all of our media, is very very biased one way or another. Are they always wrong?

Frankly our media should be at least very skeptical of China and it's supporters.

The founder split after the Tiananmen Square disaster - can’t imagine anyone departing with great memories of that …

 

[Owen Lucas]

Capitalism. USA encouraged companies to outsource and move oversea; specifically to China, claiming how cheap labor and outsourcing will help make consumer goods cheap. Don't think that aged well.

Hopefully capitalism will bring these factories back when automation hopefully becomes cheaper.

We need legislation, like the chips act to bring pharmaceutical production home.

The problem is big pharma has so much lobbying power that even with the realization of the drawbacks of having an adversary make our meds, the industry just doesn't care about the user, it's about the bottom line.

 

[wpod]

President Nixon and Henry Kissinger opened up the US to trade with China and our career politicians were swayed by lobby money for the off shoring of our manufacturing.

 

[ATex7239]

The pharmaceutical company that I work for is trying to source our raw materials from countries other than China. I've been to China to inspect the manufacturing facilities of our raw materials several times for our primary and second source manufacturers. Some were not up to our (my) standards and we've moved away from them to other suppliers in China. The good suppliers in China have good quality based on my inspections, but there could be nefarious things afoot that I can't find during my inspections. We want to move away from China suppliers for several reasons. FDA (USA) could stop import of Chinese raw materials due to political reasons, lack of general quality oversight by Chinese regulators, generally bad reputation that could cause FDA to stop import of Chinese raw materials until they can conduct a thorough inspection themselves.

My company finds it risky to import from China exclusively and wants USA or EU/UK sourced raw materials. Some of my trips to China were to qualify second sources for our raw materials but my company doesn't want them to be from China so my trips were for naught.

Fermenting antibiotics is dirty business and a lot of the fermentation factories are in China with their the lax environmental controls.

My question is who is being held accountable for the outsourcing and subsequent issues to begin with… I keep hearing about manufacturing being “brought back” after it fails and that is great and all. But it never should have left in the first place and if it has to (for whatever reason) then not into the hands of a known hostile country.

If I leave my gate open and my dog gets out and hurts someone then I’m liable for it. Who’s liable in these situations?

 

[wpod]

When I saw garlic at Trader Joe’s from China, that kinda scared me. I thought Gilroy, California was the garlic capital of the world?

Chinese garlic is cheaper and most people do not care.

 

[buster]

“… the combination of declining growth, deflation and loss of confidence in the government’s policies, along with the “unravelling property sector and unfavourable demographics”, posed enormous challenges …”

Latest from FT.

 

[Dave Hess]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/epoch...of-americas-food-supply-chain-kip-tom-5734267

"“Food security is our national security. Any nation that’s not food secure is only three meals from chaos. And I think Xi Jinping knows that very well,” says Kip Tom, a 7th generation farmer in Indiana and a former U.S. ambassador to the U.N. agencies for food and agriculture."

Yep.

CEOs wanted max profits and our stupid government allowed it.

 

[y_p_w]

Why call it a "schtick"? Are they wrong? Most people in the USA don't even know what Falun Gong is and China uses that in it's favor as well.

I mean most (80%) of our media, well all of our media, is very very biased one way or another. Are they always wrong?

Frankly our media should be at least very skeptical of China and it's supporters.

The founder of the movement claims that he can levitate and walk through walls. While I’m not a fan of the persecution of adherents in China, that doesn’t mean I don’t think the movement itself isn’t a little cuckoo for Coco Puffs.

I’m not a fan of the PRC per se, but I’m not alarmist either.

 

[Owen Lucas]

My question is who is being held accountable for the outsourcing and subsequent issues to begin with…

If I leave my gate open and my dog gets out and hurts someone then I’m liable for it. Who’s liable in these situations?

No one. Sovereign immunity basically.

The voice of the people is too small when compared to billionaires and politicians on the take.

That's just how the world works. At the core of it all it's CYA or suffer. The issue with CYA is we can't see all things coming and prepping will only last so long.

Voting can make a small difference but if people want real societal change, you go after the ones hiring the lobbyists and heads of industry. That's the problem with a lot of media and protests, they complain about those in government when the real people that need protesting are the CEOs and boards.

Go after industry leaders and maybe we can see results. The occupy Wallstreet movement was on the right track here. If the protesting NPCs can be reprogrammed to go after Verizon, Xfinity, and other companies, then you'd see change.

 

[Pablo]

The founder of the movement claims that he can levitate and walk through walls. While I’m not a fan of the persecution of adherents in China, that doesn’t mean I don’t think the movement itself isn’t a little cuckoo for Coco Puffs.

I’m not a fan of the PRC per se, but I’m not alarmist either.

That's leading off track though. Not really necessary for the discussion, IMHO. The founder of the movement does not run the news from Epoch. I get it to some extent, the garbage that come out of ABCNNBCBS needs to definitely be taken with a grain of salt, but the owners are the owners.

 

[JavierH19]

Because our evil bought and paid for government filled with foreign multi citizenship agents hate America.

 

[ATex7239]

No one. Sovereign immunity basically.

The voice of the people is too small when compared to billionaires and politicians on the take.

That's just how the world works. At the core of it all it's CYA or suffer. The issue with CYA is we can't see all things coming and prepping will only last so long.

Voting can make a small difference but if people want real societal change, you go after the ones hiring the lobbyists and heads of industry. That's the problem with a lot of media and protests, they complain about those in government when the real people that need protesting are the CEOs and boards.

Go after industry leaders and maybe some change will happen, The occupy Wallstreet movement was on the right track here. If the protesting NPCs can be reprogrammed to go after Verizon, Xfinity, and other companies, then you'd see change.

I think there should be a law similar to the concept of manslaughter in these situations… maybe there was no malice involved but the results of the act itself should be enough.

 

[MrHorspwer]

Epoch Times is to news what Scotty Kilmer is to automotive repair.

 

[Propflux01]

The pandemic taught AMERICA nothing…sickening to be honest.

I have great fear for my children’s future and safety.

No, taught us to hoard toilet paper so well that shelves were empty when the east coast dock workers went on strike!

 

[4WD]

Epoch Times is to news what Scotty Kilmer is to automotive repair.

I think your ideology is often on display here - and it’s amazing this has not been locked bcs of several political posts …

 

[Pablo]

Epoch Times is to news what Scotty Kilmer is to automotive repair.

Funny but simply not true.

It's weird though. Certain folk just go after the source.

 

[fdcg27]

A simple question:

May American nationals and companies purchase real property and industrial operations in China?

No?

Then I think that tells us all we need to know about whether we should allow purchases of US real property and industrial operations in our country.