AZjeff
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No idea what spotify is either. How's that for tech challenged??
This saying fits: I like new stuff............when it gets old.
Why do legacy manufacturers not implement handy/fun features?
- Thread starter dogememe
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This saying fits: I like new stuff............when it gets old.
Apple CarPlay is a must for me. One of the main reasons I picked the Prologue over a Blazer EV or Tesla.Maybe not to the intended buyer. Careful, your age may be showing.
I've seen people here say they would't buy a car because it didn't have Apple Carplay. Don't even know what that is.
Kestas
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I'm surprised no one has come out with a basic regressive car that isn't loaded with "features."
Hermann
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No profit is likely the reason.
AZjeff
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Oh it was you. Can't imagine that influencing a car buying decision. We could easily have a truck with no infotainment system at all and we travel a lot with the trailer.
Ram was selling trucks like that. My truck has creature comforts like power locks, windows, and AC…. That’s it. Cloth seats, chrome bumpers, and carpeted flooring were extras I paid for.
I stream KPIG "1-0-7 oink 5" from my cell thru Bluetooth to the car.
I don’t remember the last time I actually listened to radio. I hate ads and all the talking they do. It’s distracting. Music only!
KPIG streamed has no ads. But if you are in the Santa Cruz area, you can get them on FM. Their ads are hilarious
Tesla was subsidized to build a brand new design while GM/Honda hope to not loose their shirts on an EV.
Hardware cost might be low however you discount the engineering and software engineer costs to add each piece .
Hardware cost might be low however you discount the engineering and software engineer costs to add each piece .
How about a vehicle line which was designed to allow for "a la carte''" addition of options?
BONUS IDEA: What would be cool is an optional powered window for the current "clamshell" tailgate. That'd be a real option.
That, and the stainless-steel body option.
BONUS IDEA: What would be cool is an optional powered window for the current "clamshell" tailgate. That'd be a real option.
That, and the stainless-steel body option.
I think that sort of thinking is a lot of it. My wife's got one of the higher-end Lexus SUVs and I've got a Honda Ridgeline, and she's got a few more bells and whistles than I do. Not too many, but a few.
Beyond that, I suspect Tesla is trying to get away from their position as the EV manufacturer, and into more of a "technologically advanced vehicle" manufacturer, and part of that is by having the very most cutting-edge/up-to-date electronics and gadgetry in their vehicles. Makes sense; being an EV manufacturer is shortly going to lose all its market edge as everyone else's EVs saturate the market, and Tesla knows this.
In a larger sense, that's an interesting thing to consider. What are manufacturers going to compete on when the EV range problems are solved, and engines and transmissions play a much smaller role in what people buy cars for? I suspect it'll be gadgetry/integration/electronics, and not so much whether it goes from 0-60 in 2.9 or 2.2 seconds.
Tesla is a “tech” company who happens to make EVs. The legacy OEs are there to make cars. The closest thing to fun the legacy OEs did is running a demo of Mario Kart on their intotainment/MHI(Mercedes wirh Mercedes UX on CES) or running Unreal Engine for the UI/UX(GM on the Hummer EV).
They have, it's called the base trim
I wouldn't buy a new car for everyday use without it either. GM is, as said earlier, not that smart on this and i hope they take a bath on it.
However i don't consider most of the things mentioned in the original post desirable, i think there's a fairly large percentage of the buying public that feels the same and i think tolerance for and trust in large corporations to collecting data is going to come to a head soon.
Also, Americans are keeping cars longer, all that stuff will eventually break or be obsolete, so better to not have it.
Look at the population here who regularly rails agains direct injection and turbo chargers, you think that subset is going to pay for the sort of tech we are talking about?
And it sucks. Example, they still use the motorized climate control but instead of having automatic climate they put some dumb buttons up for the user interface. You can still strip a servo's gears, and then you'd be without heat. They save pennies, or in the example of crank windows, actually pay more to charge you less, obviously profiting less, but trying to shame you into spending more for the next trim level.
When you look underneath and get 98% of the same parts for 30-40% less money you realize that the stripper cars exist to keep assembly lines running for union contract reasons, for export or government sale, or something that won't interfere with the actually profitable models.
Because the legacy users will soon be dead and because the remaining people love enshitification/aka what they perceive as handy features.
I never imagined that all 2024 models didn't come with both Android Auto and Apple CarPlay. Only offering one or the other just seems to be a pointlessly limiting thing for a car manufacturer these days. What digital ecosystem you're part of is at *least* as difficult to change as buying a new car, and for most it's probably worse. So not offering one or the other basically is going to exclude all of that ecosystem.
Well no, they offer neither Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. They want you to use the apps built in to the infotainment system so that when your three years of free connectivity is up you have to pay them $40/month for a data connection if you still want it to work. It doesn't really matter now, the Prologue is only a three year lease, but if we decide to buy it out, no way I'm coughing up a monthly fee to use the car I already paid for.
