Why Auto-RX and not Amsoil ?

[Mamala Bay]

I tried LC20 didn't solve my problem. My engine response became a little sluggish and wanted to achieve what it was when it was new. This started gradually happening after 85,000 miles which I noticed.

I'm pretty sure my engine was very clean and didn't expect anything in the oil filter out of ordinary. Oil used Amsoil from 1,000 miles, Auto-RX at 114,000 miles. I used the Amsoil EaO filter for the clean and the Trasko filter for the rinse. So I got a good look at the filter media on the Trasko filter..nothing out of the ordinary.

If Auto-RX is plating something onto the metal I don't know. What did notice when I poured the RX in a hot engine it plated itself on the shield and it wouldn't come off. Kind of like glued on. It still there after 24,000 miles, I'd say about 85% of it.

My results with Auto-RX is what I wanted to achieve, a tighter response on acceleration. The sluggishness is gone.

 

[es350]

Originally Posted By: Mamala Bay
I tried LC20 didn't solve my problem. My engine response became a little sluggish and wanted to achieve what it was when it was new. This started gradually happening after 85,000 miles which I noticed.

I'm pretty sure my engine was very clean and didn't expect anything in the oil filter out of ordinary. Oil used Amsoil from 1,000 miles, Auto-RX at 114,000 miles. I used the Amsoil EaO filter for the clean and the Trasko filter for the rinse. So I got a good look at the filter media on the Trasko filter..nothing out of the ordinary.

If Auto-RX is plating something onto the metal I don't know. What did notice when I poured the RX in a hot engine it plated itself on the shield and it wouldn't come off. Kind of like glued on. It still there after 24,000 miles, I'd say about 85% of it.

My results with Auto-RX is what I wanted to achieve, a tighter response on acceleration. The sluggishness is gone.


I can play this all day long...You say, "I don't know"..."Pretty sure"..

Bud, the placebo effect is a powerful thing..Add in the "85% sure"..I hope you are not like Billy Mays???

Point is, Be sure before posting on anything since in this place, people will go nuts. Heck, add diesel with some people and get the same outlook. I am just the start too.

 

[Mamala Bay]

Originally Posted By: es350
Originally Posted By: Mamala Bay
I tried LC20 didn't solve my problem. My engine response became a little sluggish and wanted to achieve what it was when it was new. This started gradually happening after 85,000 miles which I noticed.

I'm pretty sure my engine was very clean and didn't expect anything in the oil filter out of ordinary. Oil used Amsoil from 1,000 miles, Auto-RX at 114,000 miles. I used the Amsoil EaO filter for the clean and the Trasko filter for the rinse. So I got a good look at the filter media on the Trasko filter..nothing out of the ordinary.

If Auto-RX is plating something onto the metal I don't know. What did notice when I poured the RX in a hot engine it plated itself on the shield and it wouldn't come off. Kind of like glued on. It still there after 24,000 miles, I'd say about 85% of it.

My results with Auto-RX is what I wanted to achieve, a tighter response on acceleration. The sluggishness is gone.


I can play this all day long...You say, "I don't know"..."Pretty sure"..

Bud, the placebo effect is a powerful thing..Add in the "85% sure"..I hope you are not like Billy Mays???

Point is, Be sure before posting on anything since in this place, people will go nuts. Heck, add diesel with some people and get the same outlook. I am just the start too.


I have no interest in Auto-RX or LC20. I stated what I did and achieve my goal. BTW what's your interest...why don't you try it tell us your experience.

 

[es350]

Originally Posted By: Mamala Bay
I have no interest in Auto-RX or LC20. I stated what I did and achieve my goal. BTW what's your interest...why don't you try it tell us your experience.


Buddy, your goal is to state ""I don't know"..."Pretty sure" Not a way to go to a goal..

My "interest" is I like both and both products above do the same. Problem is the norm here is to not do that (aka push one more then other). I could tell you the people too.

Again, not being neg but both work along with kero, diesel etc...Maybe you did not use Lc20 correctly? Maybe you did not wait long enough to show results?

Both work and work very nice..Problem is Lc needs to go back to original directions and ARX needs to follow "other" directions.

To say one works better then the other is crazy. and I have used both while others have not. I know what Terry has stated and "worked" both and some are multi-takers and one is not.

Time #3, I like both but you need to find out whick is cheaper in our app.

Peace pal.

 

[Mamala Bay]

Originally Posted By: es350
Originally Posted By: Mamala Bay
I have no interest in Auto-RX or LC20. I stated what I did and achieve my goal. BTW what's your interest...why don't you try it tell us your experience.


Buddy, your goal is to state ""I don't know"..."Pretty sure" Not a way to go to a goal..

My "interest" is I like both and both products above do the same. Problem is the norm here is to not do that (aka push one more then other). I could tell you the people too.

Again, not being neg but both work along with kero, diesel etc...Maybe you did not use Lc20 correctly? Maybe you did not wait long enough to show results?

Both work and work very nice..Problem is Lc needs to go back to original directions and ARX needs to follow "other" directions.

To say one works better then the other is crazy. and I have used both while others have not. I know what Terry has stated and "worked" both and some are multi-takers and one is not.

Time #3, I like both but you need to find out whick is cheaper in our app.

Peace pal.


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[txrhino]

Originally Posted By: Mamala Bay
If Auto-RX is plating something onto the metal I don't know. What did notice when I poured the RX in a hot engine it plated itself on the shield and it wouldn't come off. Kind of like glued on. It still there after 24,000 miles, I'd say about 85% of it.


Could you elaborate on comment. I'm trying to understand it, was product poured on external surface? internal? Just trying to follow what you mean, thanks

 

[Mamala Bay]

Originally Posted By: txrhino
Originally Posted By: Mamala Bay
If Auto-RX is plating something onto the metal I don't know. What did notice when I poured the RX in a hot engine it plated itself on the shield and it wouldn't come off. Kind of like glued on. It still there after 24,000 miles, I'd say about 85% of it.


Could you elaborate on comment. I'm trying to understand it, was product poured on external surface? internal? Just trying to follow what you mean, thanks


The shield is in the internal part where oil is poured into the engine. I used a narrow funnel and made sure no part of the funnel was touching as engine was hot. I placed the cardboard to block the radiator and waited on a hot day to do it. The RX wasn't liked poured into but a small stream from the funnel.

 

[Rick20]

The end result was that ARX, corrected the sluggishness in his motor. This is most likely due to superior ring pack cleansing.
I don't have anything bad to say about LC20, many posters have some good experiences. But at the end of the day ARX is a far better cleaner with respect to freeing up coked rings. There is plenty of BITOGGers that have taken the time to do before and after compression tests with ARX. Never have seen any with other products.

ARX does not do any plating to oil lubricated parts. Other than having a polar attraction to metal parts. With respect to a flim on the valve cover baffle, that will likely remain because oil will never get splash fed to that area.

 

[Mamala Bay]

Originally Posted By: Rick20
The end result was that ARX, corrected the sluggishness in his motor. This is most likely due to superior ring pack cleansing.
I don't have anything bad to say about LC20, many posters have some good experiences. But at the end of the day ARX is a far better cleaner with respect to freeing up coked rings. There is plenty of BITOGGers that have taken the time to do before and after compression tests with ARX. Never have seen any with other products.

ARX does not do any plating to oil lubricated parts. Other than having a polar attraction to metal parts. With respect to a flim on the valve cover baffle, that will likely remain because oil will never get splash fed to that area.


Thanks on the plating part. I just checked the shield with the ARX stain, the color is not as dark as originally. I can see a slight decrease in size. If any oil does reach this area it's very minimal at most.

 

[es350]

why do you care about the oil shield? It is way above the lifters and does not mean much.

 

[Mamala Bay]

The shield is of no importance. It's just an observation that occurred.

 

[Gary Allan]

I think he just wanted to comment on the observation. I don't think it was to either complain or seek remedy.

 

[pickled]

I'm going to try some flax oil, deer tallow and lard soon...maybe some whale blubber added to the crank case will be my winning formula for $30/quart LOL. The products do work as advertised when used as directed/intended. Amsoil and M1 engines are usually clean as a whistle on tear down inspections and the Amsoil engine flush is an excellent product too. ARX is like physical therapy. There is some pain involved at first, it's slow but in the end you get back strength and range of motion.

 

[fuel tanker man]

I'm a believer in AutoRX. Gary Allan approached me a couple years back and asked if I'd run a test in my old Ford Escort. The car had about 190K miles on it at the time, and performance was well under what it should have been. Mileage was still okay, around 34 to 36 mpg at best.

After the AutoRX test, performance was WAY up (this was apparent in only a few hundred miles, actually). And my mileage went up 10%--the car often gets just over 40 mpg now, and it's got 226,000 miles on it as we speak.

On the matter of knowing how well an oil cleans... you can look in the top end, but you don't know how clean the bottom end is. I saw a 2.7 Chrysler sludge anchor special torn down and it was clean as a whistle in the top end... but full of severe sludge all in the crank case...

...point then being that you can't know that a motor oil is keeping your total engine clean just by looking under the valve covers. Sludge can hide in other places, and not form in the cooler running sections of the engine up top.

AutoRX will get to that bad sludge in the lower portions of the engine. Look at some of the oil filters which have been cut apart and examined during AutoRX tests. They're filled with the goop that the product is removing. It works.

Dan

 

[Gary Allan]

Dan, you were rare find. Not into pouring anything but oil in the crankcase ..but not strongly opinionated either. Very open minded (not too common these days). You were about the best candidate there can be. You can dnewton3 made that whole trip worth it.

 

[Mamala Bay]

It was dnewton3 experience with ARX as I had the same engine why I tried Auto-Rx.

Sorry if I didn't do it right but I read awhile back it took synthetic oil longer to accomplish what ARX could do with non ester oils. This might be why Auto-Rx recommends using a non ester oil to gain the full benefits of Auto-Rx. I started feeling results after 700-1,000 miles with weird flowing noise from the engine.

End results ARX did work, I have stronger and tighter response on my engine. My engine has more snap into it especially on the lower gears.

 

[sprintman]

Do NOT use ester oil for RX clean or rinse. Why is this hard for some to understand?

 

[es350]

Originally Posted By: sprintman
Do NOT use ester oil for RX clean or rinse. Why is this hard for some to understand?


Easy, your boy needs to spell it out. If you leave it up to the customer to try and figure out, if there is ester, um, they will fail. Remember we need warning sticker on lawn mowers..Spell it out and be 100% find.

Nevermind, most people do not read the manual.

 

[sprintman]

You are 100% correct there....s

 

[Mamala Bay]

Originally Posted By: es350
Originally Posted By: sprintman
Do NOT use ester oil for RX clean or rinse. Why is this hard for some to understand?


Easy, your boy needs to spell it out. If you leave it up to the customer to try and figure out, if there is ester, um, they will fail. Remember we need warning sticker on lawn mowers..Spell it out and be 100% find.

Nevermind, most people do not read the manual.



Just to clarify when I used ARX the new site was NOT up. I have no interest in ARX but used their product under my own choice. I went with was discussed years ago that a PAO/ester base oil would take MUCH longer and not the desired choice.

Auto-RX did work for my intended problem. I wanted a performance gain and am quite happy with the results.

I meant no confusing for Auto-RX new site which clearly states the proper procedure in using their product.