Who makes Amsoil oil filters?

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Originally posted by Mystic:
One thing I forgot to put in my last post-I think it is very bad that there are so few oil filter manufacturers, and apparently the car manufacturers no longer make their own oil filters. I can remember when a FRAM filter failed on the Plymouth Duster I owned, there was a Mopar oil filter available that would work perfectly. And when a FRAM failed on my Toyota Corolla that I owned, there was a Toyota oil filter available that would get the job done. Why did the car manufacturers decide to stop making oil filters? It still would not be bad, if the car manufacturers demanded a certain level of minimum quality. But do they? More competition from several companies would certainly help, as well. GM a while back came out with a real high quality oil filter (which was probably actually made by Champion Labs or Purolator), but it is no longer being sold. Maybe the oil filter makers and the car makers have a point-most people just do not care, otherwise the high quality GM filter would have sold.
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A lot has to do with money. If it costs less to have Fram build it to say for example Honda or Toyota then why not. The car owner wouldn't know unless they ask or actually look at the filter. You know the car owner that gets their car serviced at the dealership wouldn't stick their heads under the car and look for the manufacturer's name. Well, oil filter fanatics that frequent this site would know.
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Mystic

You wonder why the car companies don't make thier own filters anymore and why there are so few companies making filters? As Said its the money $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

As has been mentioned in this thread and others, everyone is "looking for something for nothing". They want top quality but don't want to pay for it. Sooner or later these buig companies say to themselves, why are we spending millions of $$ of manf. plant and labor cost when we can just have Fram make our filters and then we can make more profits with less overhead.

I'd bet the largest marketer of oil and filters is Walmart. And not because the carry the best products, but because its the cheapest place to buy product.

I know of several places here that will not install oil and filters you purchased somewhere else. It growing more and more. My friend owns a service center and hardly a day dosen't go by when someone will come in and want an oil change. They have their own oil from Walmart. I have seen him tell them it the same price weather you bring your own oil or I sell it to you. He told once person to go and have the people at Walmart change it for you. (No serivce center at Walmart here.) He says the other service centers are starting to do the same thing as its hurting their business.

Those that are always looking for something for nothing, will sooner or later end up with nothing.

Also why would any filter manf. want to guve the precise details on their product to provide the "proof" as what mentioned. If they have a unique product and then tell everyone just exactly how it is made etc, aren't they giving away thier advantage to the competitors? Let them buy one and go from there.

[ April 13, 2003, 08:31 AM: Message edited by: Mike ]
 
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AMSOIL FILTERS ARE NOT IDENTICAL TO BALDWIN/HASTINGS FILTERS. WHILE THEY MAY LOOK ALIKE, THE DIFFERENCE IN DESIGN IS THE FILTERING MEDIA. YOU CANNOT GO BY LOOKS, YOU WOULD NEED A MICROSCOPE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
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Maybe, but again no proof. The Amsoil SDF36 and the HAstings LF386 are duplicates in all appearances to me as are the Hastings LF420 and the Amsoil SDF20. Now, give me proof the specs are different. Mine are observation, someone provide the scientific evidence of difference if any other then AJ hype!
Now, what I do like is that the SAF 36 is the larger version of the SDF20 and the same pressure specs etc. I am trying to locate the same for K&N and they seem unable to inform me which of their filters is the larger version of the HP-1004

[ April 13, 2003, 10:38 AM: Message edited by: Spector ]
 
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Originally posted by Mike:
AMSOIL FILTERS ARE NOT IDENTICAL TO BALDWIN/HASTINGS FILTERS. WHILE THEY MAY LOOK ALIKE, THE DIFFERENCE IN DESIGN IS THE FILTERING MEDIA. YOU CANNOT GO BY LOOKS, YOU WOULD NEED A MICROSCOPE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
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Maybe, but again no proof. The Amsoil SDF36 and the HAstings LF386 are duplicates in all appearances to me as are the Hastings LF420 and the Amsoil SDF20. Now, give me proof the specs are different. Mine are observation, someone provide the scientific evidence of difference if any other then AJ hype!
Now, what I do like is that the SAF 36 is the larger version of the SDF20 and the same pressure specs etc. I am trying to locate the same for K&N and they seem unable to inform me which of their filters is the larger version of the HP-1004
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Just curious, what proof will satisfy you?? Here a copy of the front page from the Amsoil/Hasting product catalog.
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Mike,

What we'd like to see are the full results of the tests. We'd like to see what percentage of what size particles were trapped in both the single pass and multiple pass tests, and the weight of material the filter held before the differential pressure became excessive indicating that the filter was clogged. For example, the ad could say something like "99% of 20 micron particles and 50% of 10 micron particles captured in the multiple pass test with a capacity of 15 grams of material." If Amsoil had the tests conducted, they have this info. We do not want to see advertising hype without solid data.


Ken
 
Spector, supposedly the HP1005 is the bigger (fatter, not longer) version of the HP1004, but I think the bypass specs are different.
 
People could buy Baldwin, Hastings, or Wix oil filters, and forget about the rest. [/quote]
I like the sound of that.
 
A resurrected thread from 2003 ... that might be a new record.
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
A resurrected thread from 2003 ... that might be a new record.


yes ,but who makes them now and where do they rate on the list(cost not a deciding factor) lol ?
 
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Thanks guys.. was thinking about trying these out and then this three yr old thread popped up. Had to ask...appreciate it!
 
^^^ Try more like 13 year old thread (2003). Check back in 13 more years and someone else might be making them by then.
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