Which oils are 'thick or thin' ?

[Thatwouldbegreat]

Thanks to AndyH, TeeDub, and NJC!

If we get a few more helpers and add more 0W-20, 5W-20, 0W30, 5w30, 0W40, 5W-40 data we could have the start of a pretty useful list, IMHO.

 

[Thatwouldbegreat]

TropArtic syn blend 5W-20 @40C cSt 48.8 @100C 8.6 HTHS 2.6

TropArtic syn blend 5w30 @40C cSt 64.0 @100C 10.9 HTHS 3.1

http://www.phillips66lubricants.com/NR/r...cSynBlendMO.pdf


TropArtic High Mileage syn blend 5w30 @40C cSt 70.1 @100C 11.5 HTHS 3.2

http://tds.econocophillips.com/catalogs/...c_HM_Syn_MO.pdf

Chevron Supreme 5W-20 @40C cSt 45.5 @100C 8.0 HTHS ?

Chevron Supreme 5w30 @40C cSt 64.8 @100C 10.8 HTHS ?

https://www.cbest.chevron.com/generated/MSDS/PDS20365448.PDF

Chevron Supreme synthetic 5W-20 @40C cSt 47 @100C 8.9 HTHS ?

Chevron Supreme synthetic 5w30 @40C cSt 59.9 @100C 10.6 HTHS ?

Chevron Supreme synthetic 5W-40 @40C cSt 87.7 @100C 13.7 HTHS ?

https://www.cbest.chevron.com/generated/MSDS/PDS7674840.PDF

 

[Thatwouldbegreat]

Kendall GT1 synthetic 5W-20 @40C cSt 48.3 @100C 8.5 HTHS 2.7

Kendall GT1 synthetic 5w30 @40C cSt 61.3 @100C 10.9 HTHS 3.1

http://www.kendallmotoroil.com/NR/rdonly...T1_HP_SynMO.pdf

Kendall GT1 high mileage synthetic 5w30 @40C cSt 70.4 @100C 11.6 HTHS 3.3

http://www.kendallmotoroil.com/NR/rdonly...1_HM_Syn_MO.pdf

Kendall GT1 high full synthetic 5w30 @40C cSt 60.0 @100C 10.5 HTHS 3.0

Kendall GT1 high full synthetic 5W-40 @40C cSt 84.5 @100C 14.3 HTHS 3.8

http://www.kendallmotoroil.com/NR/rdonly..._Full_SynMO.pdf

 

[Thatwouldbegreat]

Shell Rotella synthetic 5W-40 @40C cSt 90 @100C 15 HTHS ?


Shell Helix Ultra synthetic 5W-40 @40C cSt 76.3 @100C 13.8 HTHS ?

Formula Shell 5W-20 @40C cSt 46.28 @100C 8.16 HTHS ?

Formula Shell 5w30 @40C cSt 66.16 @100C 10.75 HTHS ?

http://www.shell-lubricants.com/products/pdf/FormulaShellMotorOils.pdf

Formula Shell synthetic 5w30 @40C cSt 57.47 @100C 10.51 HTHS ?

http://www.shell-lubricants.com/products/pdf/FormulaShellFullSynthetic.pdf

Formula Shell syn blend 5w30 @40C cSt 63.86 @100C 10.67 HTHS ?

http://www.shell-lubricants.com/products/pdf/FormulaShellSB.pdf

 

[Thatwouldbegreat]

Conoco All Season syn blend 5W-20 @40C cSt 48.8 @100C 8.8 HTHS 2.6

Conoco All Season syn blend 5w30 @40C cSt 64 @100C 10.9 HTHS 3.1

http://www.conocolubricants.com/NR/rdonl...SynBlend_MO.pdf

 

[Thatwouldbegreat]

Valvoline All Climate 5W-20 @40C cSt 45.9 @100C 8.36 HTHS ?

Valvoline All Climate 5w30 @40C cSt 61.98 @100C 10.46 HTHS ?



http://www.valvoline.com/products/All-Climate.pdf

Mobil 7500 5W-20 @40C cSt 50 @100C 8.9 HTHS ?

Mobil 7500 5w30 @40C cSt 62.5 @100C 10.6 HTHS ?

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_Clean_7500.asp

Mobil 1 0w30 @40C cSt 63.1 @100C 11 HTHS 2.99

Mobil 1 0W-40 @40C cSt 80 @100C 14.3 HTHS 3.6

Mobil 1 5W-20 @40C cSt 48.3 @100C 8.8 HTHS 2.62

Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40 @40C cSt 102 @100C 14.8 HTHS ?

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_0W-40.asp

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_5W-20.asp





http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil1_0W-30.asp

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil1_Turbo_Diesel_Truck_5W-40.asp

 

[ARB1977]

So the higher the CST the thicker the oil is?

 

[Thatwouldbegreat]

yes

http://www.texacoxpresslube.com/carcare/article_viscosity.html



http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/visc.html

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...true#Post729153

 

[Thatwouldbegreat]

Valvoline Maxlife 5W-20 @40C cSt 50.2 @100C 8.7 HTHS ?

Valvoline Maxlife 5w30 @40C cSt 62.31 @100C 10.61 HTHS ?

http://www.valvoline.com/products/Maxlife.pdf

Valvoline Maxlife Syn 5w30 @40C cSt 74 @100C 11.8 HTHS ?

Havoline Deposit Shield 5W-20 @40C cSt 47.5 @100C 8 HTHS ?

Havoline Deposit Shield 5w30 @40C cSt 59.4 @100C 9.7 HTHS ?

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?
Cat=0&Number=789283&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1


Havoline Defrom 2005 5W-20 @40C cSt 45.5 @100C 8 HTHS ?

Havoline from 2005 5w30 @40C cSt 64.8.4 @100C 10.8 HTHS ?

http://andy.hedin.googlepages.com/Havoline_5w30.pdf


Pennzoil Platinum [2005] 5W-20 @40C cSt 46.8 @100C 8.5 HTHS 2.6

NOTE: the Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 is also old data/ formulation Jan 2005 the newest Pennzoil PDS and is not available at the moment


http://www.pennzoilplatinum.com/pdf/platinum_ds.pdf

 

[Thatwouldbegreat]

http://home.comcast.net/~apexigsx/5w-20synpds.xls

Here's a 5W-20 chart that has some new info

 

[ARB1977]

#@$%! i never gave it much thought when it came to the actual science of this stuff...yea yea i know where have i been since joining this forum. Your never too late to learn. At what point would people classify a 30W oil being close to a 40W without being classified as a 40W oil? I was checking out the chart and anything thats over 12.49 cst is considered as a 40W.

 

[Thatwouldbegreat]

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#@$%! i never gave it much thought when it came to the actual science of this stuff...yea yea i know where have i been since joining this forum. Your never too late to learn. At what point would people classify a 30W oil being close to a 40W without being classified as a 40W oil? I was checking out the chart and anything thats over 12.49 cst is considered as a 40W.

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That's one of the many reasons why people like Castrol GC 0W-30, it is at the upper end of the 30 weight range when hot, nearly a thin 40 weight....yet when very cold it is in the 0W range.

I suppose I could add the cold cranking data, TBN, UOA links, and the Viscosity Index to this list...but I thought a simple chart of the 40C 100C cSt numbers and HTHS data could be useful.

My thinking is that except for the few premium synthetics left... [ like GC, Redline, Amsoil, to name a few ] it is possible to think that the new Group III synthetics are more like commodities; and price and viscosity may be two of the most important bits of data.

 

[ARB1977]

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#@$%! i never gave it much thought when it came to the actual science of this stuff...yea yea i know where have i been since joining this forum. Your never too late to learn. At what point would people classify a 30W oil being close to a 40W without being classified as a 40W oil? I was checking out the chart and anything thats over 12.49 cst is considered as a 40W.

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That's one of the many reasons why people like Castrol GC 0W-30, it is at the upper end of the 30 weight range when hot, nearly a thin 40 weight....yet when very cold it is in the 0W range.

I suppose I could add the cold cranking data, TBN, UOA links, and the Viscosity Index to this list...but I thought a simple chart of the 40C 100C cSt numbers and HTHS data could be useful.

My thinking is that except for the few premium synthetics left... [ like GC, Redline, Amsoil, to name a few ] it is possible to think that the new Group III synthetics are more like commodities; and price and viscosity may be two of the most important bits of data.

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Im sure this has been beaten to death but how good is the new castrol 0W30 compaired to the old 0W30?

 

[Thatwouldbegreat]

I still have a mega stash of the original green GC...so I have no first hand experience with the new GC.

My expectation is that it is probably quite good!

 

[AndyH]

Here is the latest and greatest:

 

[Thatwouldbegreat]

Royal Purple data :

Royal Purple 5W-20 @40C cSt 49.5 @100C 8.7 HTHS ?

Royal Purple 5w30 @40C cSt 65.3 @100C 11 HTHS ?

Royal Purple 10w30 @40C cSt 70.3 @100C 10.7 HTHS ?

 

[Kitto]

Do anyone think this will be useful to stick on the top?

 

[Patman]

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Do anyone think this will be useful to stick on the top?

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Most definitely! I've been waiting for this topic to resurface again so I could sticky it, the info in it is excellent!!

 

[Thatwouldbegreat]

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Do anyone think this will be useful to stick on the top?

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Most definitely! I've been waiting for this topic to resurface again so I could sticky it, the info in it is excellent!!

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Thanks! And thanks to AndyH for the great chart! I think that we are off to a good start!

 

[cos]

AndyH,

Thanks for the great chart!