Which additives are REALLY worth using?

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Would question the comment that Militec does not contain any chlorinated compounds unless they have undergone a major formulation change. Last information that was available, it still contains chlorinated hydrocarbons and that could lead to problems when used in engine oils. It has been allowed for use by the military only as a weapons lubricant and not as an engine oil additive.
 
Here is a comment for the anti chlorinated oil crowd:
http://www.mpc-home.com/htmls/Chlorine and Engine Oils.htm

I have several customers that have use nothing but an occasional bottle of OTC fuel injector cleaner straight from the local autoparts or department stores.
This means that ALL the fluids aren't tampered with ever. No ATF/oil/PS/antifreeze/per-fillup additives are used. No issues have ever developed even though some of these cars have 200k+ miles. But, normal maintenance intervals are being used even if it wastes resources. No 25k ATF or 10k oil extended fluid changes ever.

Stick with name brand products, busy stores, and spend your money on more worthwhile entertainment.

Or, pick and choose the additive that gives you the most psychological improvement in vehicle performance.

Currently running Lubegard in the transmission. Some transmissions respond well to it.

For the FI cleaner, its a toss up. Seafoam, B12, Chevron, Redline, Lucas, BG......along with others, are pretty good.

For the engine, I have never had a seal issue with quick flushes. And, as a guinea pig, ran a quart of engine flush on a hot engine for a 30+minute ride from the autoparts store. This engine had over 200k miles on the original seals. This engine runs better now than ever and doesn't leak. As you can see, even if you're ignorant with the flush directions, you shouldn't create problems. Maybe a problem will develope if you boil the seals in straight engine flush for a couple of week.

Recentyly added a bottle of Rislone to a 100k mile poorly maintained 350V8 pickup. Within 1k miles, oil consumption has dropped, engine MPG has increased, and engine makes less ticking/tapping and other weird noises.

And, theres Marvel. It has been added to used car purchases for friends and family(if Rislone wasn't available). It too had an affect similar to Rislone.

And my next candidate is currently running Rotella T 5w40 diesel oil in a gasoline engine. After 3k miles, the carbon buildup in the corners of the oil filter mount is gone. This was a surprise since the engine has had a diet of OTC synthetics. The oil was also very dark compared to previous changes. Maybe a diet of HDEO oil is the be$t method for those used car purchases....

I also have a friend who claims that his recent water injection system has improved car's performance. Good ol' mist of water making improvements. Wonder why the OEM isn't using H20 along with a knock sensor instead of timing retard?
 
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Recentyly added a bottle of Rislone to a 100k mile poorly maintained 350V8 pickup. Within 1k miles, oil consumption has dropped, engine MPG has increased, and engine makes less ticking/tapping and other weird noises.

Interesting! My sister says she used it and got rid of the ticking on two vehicles. But my '84 F150 had a bottle of Rislone every oil change for 175000 miles and that was always 3000 mile changes. Towards the end there, it was getting sticking lifters occasionally on cold mornings. There was a thread on Rislone some time ago (maybe November 03) and the voa showed less additives than regular motor oil. Rislone's response was that the special property of Rislone would not show up in a typical analysis. Anyway, I was a big fan of Rislone for 25 years, but this site got me to quit using it.
 
OIL CLEANER > CD-2 ? EVER HEARD OF IT ? CD-2 OIL DETERGENT. CLEANS QUIETS VALVES-RINGS LIFTERS.DISSOLVES SLUDGE,CARBON AND GUM. CLEANS ALL INTERNAL ENGINE PARTS. I BOUGHT IT AT WALMART. I HAVE NOT USED IT YET. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF ANYONE HAS USED IT, AND WHAT RESULTS OCCURED, POSITIVE, OR NEGATIVE. THANK YOU. JACK.
 
For forty years I've been in the habit of adding a half quart of Rislone or Marvel Mystery Oil to the crankcase a day or two before an oil change. None of the cars I've owned have used enough oil between changes to have to be topped off. None of the cars I've owned blow blue smoke out the tailpipe on startup. Never had a lubrication related failure. I only saw the inside of one of my engines, a Ford with over 250,000 miles and it was clean as a whistle. Every auto I've owned put a lot of miles on their clocks. So.... would something like Auto_RX do any better...? or technical overkill?
 
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I didn't here anyone mention WATER WETTER by RL. I heard good things about it I personally have not used it though. Going back to motorhomes without knowing why I used to see very new expensive MH's stopped on the roadside of a steep hill all the time. Perhaps the temp. gague got to high for their liking who knows. But my TOYOTA MH loaded down with its little 4 banger never even came close to giving me trouble. I credit workmanship and using good judgment when traveling as the biggest factor.Perhaps AMSOIL in the engine transmission and WATER WETTER most anybody would make the climb.
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The one product I am convinced works is Auto-RX. It worked in my previous car and a lot of people at this web site have given Auto-RX a try in all sorts of vehicles-cars, trucks, vans, and SUVs.

In my previous car when the fuel injectors seemed to be getting plugged up, Berryman ChemTool B-12 worked really well. But I don't really like to use something like that. 12 oz. of Neutra also seemed to work great and seemed to improve fuel mileage. I am still looking for the ideal fuel injector cleaner. I have tried Redline and I think I will give Amsoil a try.

Another product that seemed to work in my car was Lubegard Engine Treatment. And the Lubegard automatic transmission treatments seem to work-I can remember seeing Lubegard at automatic transmission shops.

There may also be value in Lube Control, Fuel Power, Schaeffer's #132, and Valvoline MaxLife oil supplement.

Overall, however, I think 99.99% of all oil supplements, engine treatments, etc., are useless.
 
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But as far as other additives, I've been quite skeptical.
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good, most don't work


My goal is best fuel mileage, cost of operation, and taking care of the vehicles.
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then pick and oil that gives good MPG and has a long service life.


Right now I am running the cars on the following plan;
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IMVHO, you use the RL up and go to any good oil you want. If it were me I'd try Pennzoil SUV...
or even Citgo...
MY BELIEF is once the engine is CLEAN and COATED WITH PLENTY OF MOLY, you can run almost anything decent.
Use up what you have and go for it. Don't worry.


The forum has had many favorable posts about the foloowing products. Which ones should I consider and how best to use them?
[A] Auto Rx
Lube Control: Fuel Power
[C] Lube Control: Lube Control
[D] Schaeffer: #131 NEUTRA FUEL STABILIZER
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although I have not used any of these, I feel based on others responses that you would do well with one or two of these.

If the engine is clean, you don't need A.
if you use B don't use D (either or here)

C is most likely the best bang for you buck...
 
Seems funny to me that products like Lube Control and Fuel Power have been around for 40+ years and get a lot of favorable print here, and products like MMO that have been around just as long draw disparaging remarks. New products like GTA aren't even tried....
 
I think the reason is that 99% of oil addatives/products are either B.S. or marketing hype. It just so happens some of the ones that BITOG members like are old, and others are newer.(AutoRX)

I think if you look that more products are bashed or praised on here aren't for no reason. Do a search on some of the other addatives like MMO.

-T
 
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I think as a additive to oil don't use STP use Schaeffer Moly E.P oil Treatment. Great to top off between long changes.This to a little more price but I'm sure it would do well. Synergyn® Oil Treatment protects and reinforces the additive system in any lubricant so it will work better and last longer. In addition, Synergyn® increases the film strength of lubricants so you have less wear, lower temperatures and reduced oxidation. Synergyn® is a proprietary blend of ingredients and additives that improves the effectiveness and useful life of any lubricant. It may be used in any liquid lubricant and is effective in hydraulic systems, transmissions, gear boxes, speed reducers, differentials, transfer cases and hydrostatic drives, as well as all crankcase engine oils - diesel or gasoline. Synergyn® may be used in all lubricants, synthetic or petroleum based. Synergyn® makes any oil better.
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