Which 20 wt oil is likely to get my Hybrid THERE?

[Cooker]

I own a Prius, which has been an excellent vehicle, and am looking at a Hybrid for my wife. I was looking at the Escape but was not sure how well the Ford Hybrid systems are holding up. I was concered about the Hybrid drive system and/or the Hybrid battery holding up over the long haul. It seems the Ford hybrid systems are a fairly solid and reliable drivetrain?

BTW - Contratualtions on your new car, and like the other mentioned, all oils in your stash will be an excellent option for your new vehicle.

 

[4x4chevydude]

I think that it is a good goal to get 400k out of a car and once you get there contact Ford so you cna be a spokesperson and maybe they will give you a new car at that point....I would say any decent oil with 7500 mile changes will do you good...might as well find cheapest sale oils and stock up as it appears you did now

 

[Best F100]

Sorry to revive this dead topic, but since I'd started it, I thought I would I'd update everyone of my impressions of Motorcraft 5W20 Full Synthetic.

In this 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid, with Kendall 5W20 blend (that came with it when I bought it used), I saw a dashboard indicated mpg of 50.2 mpg over a commute of 900 miles! (Almost Prius type mileage). I didn't believe it either, but that's what it said. I did not verify the old fashioned way, by gallons pumped and calculator. For experimental reasons, I purposely kept my commuting speed to 65 mpg, and drafted tractor trailer trucks (at a safe distance), on my 80% highway, 45 mile daily commute.

With an oil change to Motorcraft 5W20 Full Synthetic, I am "only" averaging an indicated 48 to 49 mpg over the same course. Not what I expected. I thought full Synthetics were supposed to enchance fuel mileage.

Is there an answer for why my mpg took a "hit?" I do know, that my SM Motorcraft Full Synthetic has a 2.7 HT/HS (cst@100C of 8.3), and the SN Kendall 5W20(cst @100C of 8.7) has a 2.6 HT/HS. Is old motor oil, more "slippery" than fresh motor oil? I think I will be hearing from Caterham.

When winter comes, I will be trying out some Toyota 0W20 that I have in my garage, to see if that makes for any changes.

Great car, by the way, it gets my two thumbs up, for anyone who hates to pay at the pump. And for anyone who wants to be in a car with more "mass" around them, for safety reasons than a Toyota Prius. With it's 17 gallon tank, theoretically, I should be able to drive over 700 miles on a tank of gas.

 

[crazyoildude]

i dont use mobil one but my neighbor does and he changes it once a year and he drives a lot he has a 2003 lincoln town car with 170,000+ miles and it runs great... he wont change it under a year

 

[KCJeep]

Not only is the HTHS slightly higher in your Motorcraft, the Kendall is heavy with titanium additive. I've noticed a lot of people who've used the titanium additive oils have commented they noticed a slight mileage increase as well.

 

[jkhawaii]

good luck with the 400,000 mile goal. its not the engine that I would be worried about its the car around it! if you get to 400,000 miles the car will look and drive like it just came out of the junk yard. modern cars are designed to be replaced every 8 years or 150,000 miles lol

 

[lemonade]

Originally Posted By: jkhawaii
good luck with the 400,000 mile goal. its not the engine that I would be worried about its the car around it! if you get to 400,000 miles the car will look and drive like it just came out of the junk yard. modern cars are designed to be replaced every 8 years or 150,000 miles lol

X2
May be not 8 years for me, but definitely around 10 years, I love my TL, but after 10 years (2 more generation later), there're always better car outside, from sound insulation, ride, mpg, features, design (this is subjective i know). But i realize not everyone has the $ to upgrade car every now and then.
There'r way too many other things to be worried in life other than the longevity of my car or oil.
I seriously think modern car can easily go for 200K, after that i think you get your $ worth unless you are talking about a 100K car, which you shouldn't care about the longevity too much either.
Real case (my dad):
2001 Lexus LS430 top of the line package chrome wheel, adjustable suspension, navi plus backseat massager Fast forward 10 more years the car has more than 300K, this old man drive from LA to Sacramento to Vegas to Phoenix almost every other months. Now the engine and transmission is still pretty good, but the bearing around the wheel is started to worn out, so some noise can be heard while driving at high speed, the mechanics said he couldn't pinpoint which bearing it is, advise my dad to keep driving it until it get more worn out then change it out. Also the navigation unit is totally broken after he parked his car at a high elevation place somewhere with sub 20s temp, condensation fried the circuit of the unit stoed at the trunk, asked for a replacement, cost $2000, so he just use a $100 TOMTOM now, haha.
Just wanna say what other has been saying, the car will look pretty [censored] after 300k or 400k, but the powertrain will still run. To some ppl it's ok, but some otherswould like to get another car. Oh, forgot to add, my old man change hid 1st timing belt at almost 200K, fxxking nut...

 

[chevrofreak]

Originally Posted By: Cooker
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
The fusion (like my Mariner Hybrid) is a full hybrid not a series or parallel.


I am confused by your statement? What, by your definition, is a full hybrid?


It is explained far better here than I can do myself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_Vehicle_Drivetrains#Types_by_drive_train_structure

 

[Lillikai]

Originally Posted By: Best F100
With an oil change to Motorcraft 5W20 Full Synthetic, I am "only" averaging an indicated 48 to 49 mpg over the same course. Not what I expected. I thought full Synthetics were supposed to enchance fuel mileage.

Is there an answer for why my mpg took a "hit?"


Synthetics aren't made to enhance fuel economy, no matter what the label says on the bottle. Synthetics are made to decrease engine wear and increase engine life/longevity. Extended drain oils are just a bonus

Outside temps and driving conditions will effect fuel economy more than anything else will. Late spring/early fall is when the fusion gets the best mpg. Having a "feather foot" will also help your gas mileage.

 

[dave1251]

Originally Posted By: Lillikai
Originally Posted By: Best F100
With an oil change to Motorcraft 5W20 Full Synthetic, I am "only" averaging an indicated 48 to 49 mpg over the same course. Not what I expected. I thought full Synthetics were supposed to enchance fuel mileage.

Is there an answer for why my mpg took a "hit?"


Synthetics aren't made to enhance fuel economy, no matter what the label says on the bottle. Synthetics are made to decrease engine wear and increase engine life/longevity. Extended drain oils are just a bonus

Outside temps and driving conditions will effect fuel economy more than anything else will. Late spring/early fall is when the fusion gets the best mpg. Having a "feather foot" will also help your gas mileage.


Pure speculation nothing about what you said about synthetics is true in regards to decreasing engine wear and increasing longevity in applications where the use of a synthetic is not a designed requirement.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Because of it's flow properties, there's no speculation that name-brand synthetics have the upper hand in cold and hot extreme temps -- also help during startup.

 

[buster]

Originally Posted By: Lillikai
My boyfriend has a 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid last September we did a UOA on the M1 0w-20 oil. He's been using M1 0w-20 in the Fusion since he bought it new in 2010 (minus the first factory fill). Here's the report of the oil, hope this helps-

I also meant to put that he drives 100 miles every day (5 days a week). 80% highway, 20% city/traffic. Missouri weather. Each year he puts about 35,000 miles on the Fusion.


I bet the Tbn held on around 2.5 for quite some time, supporting XOM's claim. Nice results!

 

[dave1251]

Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Because of it's flow properties, there's no speculation that name-brand synthetics have the upper hand in cold and hot extreme temps -- also help during startup.


That may have been true once upon a time but today the waters have been so muddied up that it is more important which "synthetic" you are talking about. There are a few "synthetics" that make a very poor lubricant in either situation you named.