Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Regarding the first one, yes a single UOA, but the oil and engine hardly disintegrated did it?
In fact by your own words "it's in above average condition" and that's with an additive in the crank case. The horrors!
And I only posted the UOA because you said you had seen "a lot" of UOA's with "worse results" using additives. You still haven't posted a single link to those...
You also deleted the second link in my post
showing consecutive UOA's with lower wear numbers with the MMO additive than without. Now why would you do that?
I actually don't jump to conclusions easily but what I posted flies in the face of what you said, and that is my point. You still haven't made any attempt to back up your statement about all the UOA's you'd seen, "a lot" with "worse results" using an additive.
At this point I'm convinced you can't.
I believed you were spouting opinions as facts repeatedly, told you so, asked two direct questions in two different threads which were largely ignored and still are unanswered or not responded to other than a veiled insult.
I probably could have done the same thing on about 100 things you said but I kept it simple, just two, but now we know you don't really have an answer. Which is what I initially thought but I gave you the benefit of the doubt. I'm here to discuss, and discussions aren't much fun if everyone agrees, but you're not discussing you're just on a soapbox playing a very tired line out yet again.
So..... Hi Ho, Hi Ho, it's off to ignore you go!
Happy New Year! Seriously...
If you want to see Moly effects look in the UOA section for those examples where it has been added to a good quality oil not something cheap. I've read them but it will be a week before I am back in the office so I don't have the links, if you knew anything about adding too much Moly you would not need to question it's effects as they are very well documented by the VW TDI forum.
You are going rather over the top by saying I implied Moly additives were some kind of instant death, as that can only happen with solvent snake oils not the anti wear type. The corrosion and detergent failure effects of overloading the add pack of a good oil take a long time to be apparent, although the intial signs are visible in some UOA results corrosion takes several OCI's before the Fe starts to increase.
If you reply can you post the MMO thread link as I did not cut it off intentionally and have not seen that UOA. MMO was not intended as an anti wear so something very odd is happening if it improved a UOA result. If the oil was too thick I suppose that might happen.