When the body says "no"

[Lolvoguy]

Awesome read. Just read the first chapter and I gotta say, it's a pretty awesome read.

Not for the faint of heart who believe "I inherited this condition, it runs in my family"

A quote from someone who read it on amazon:
"This book takes illness out of the hands of the drug companies and forces us to look at how we live our lives in relation to our health. It is revolutionary stuff."

http://www.amazon.com/When-Body-Says-Stress-Disease-Connection/dp/0470923350


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[wallyuwl]

Haven't read the book, but it looks like it is on to something. In sports training a new paradigm is developing regarding stresses on the body. That is, we no longer look at just physical stress (from training or games) but look at all stressors (are you having trouble with your girlfriend? or classes? etc.). This is the new thing in athlete monitoring, especially with college athletes that have so much on their plate.

Nutrition is also incredibly important. Most people eat junk and are in an acidic and inflammatory state all the time. People need to go back to eating real food, and ideally without a bunch of chemicals sprayed on it (in the case of fruits and vegetables), or at least washed thoroughly. Eating real, whole, foods will make everyone healthier. Don't even get me started on wheat, even "healthy whole grain" wheat.

 

[Lolvoguy]

I do agree that we as humans, tend to suppress stressful issues and situations that can and do lead to physical imbalances. I've studied this stuff through my GF who's almost done her wholistic nutrician (sp?) education.

I have an older brother who suffers from type 2 diabetes as well as thyroid issues, overweight etc and generally looks terrible (none of these are predominant in our family) On the upside, he's got a nice house and nice shiney things. Sure it cost him his health but in this society, being healthy is kinda overrated IMO.

Conversley, I have another brother (same parents, mind you) who is an alcoholic. Most of his life he's spent binging on alcohol and a poor diet. He's in his mid 40's and has slept with everything that walks. He has no ailments, no diseases and also no job

I'm not sure if wheat is all THAT bad. Heck, the Europeans have been eating the non-GMO stuff for centuries and they seem to be doing fine.

 

[aquariuscsm]

I remember when I was growing up (the mid 70s) they really pushed the "bread and cereal group" on that food pyramid thingy.

 

[bigt61]

If it comes in a box, don't eat it. Carbs in general, and especially wheat, are evil. The "low-fat" diet is killing us. We need more fat in our diet. Good saturated fat from meat, butter, coconut and olive oil. Poly unsaturated vegetable oil will cause serious inflammation, especially when cooked under high heat. Books I recommend - Protein Power, Wheat Belly, The Big Fat Surprise and Good Calories, Bad Calories.

 

[friendly_jacek]

Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy


A quote from someone who read it on amazon:
"This book takes illness out of the hands of the drug companies and forces us to look at how we live our lives in relation to our health. It is revolutionary stuff."


while everyone can agree with the general premise here, the reviews for this particular book are too glowing to be true.

 

[Lolvoguy]

Originally Posted By: bigt61
. We need more fat in our diet. Good saturated fat from meat, butter, coconut and olive oil. Poly unsaturated vegetable oil will cause serious inflammation, especially when cooked under high heat.


http://www.naturalhealthstrategies.com/coconut-oil-and-weight-loss-cows.html

Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy


A quote from someone who read it on amazon:
"This book takes illness out of the hands of the drug companies and forces us to look at how we live our lives in relation to our health. It is revolutionary stuff."


while everyone can agree with the general premise here, the reviews for this particular book are too glowing to be true.


Maybe, but why don't you read it and let us know what you think of it

 

[Lolvoguy]

I think we are losing the point of my original post.

The premise of my post was that it's more than just the food vs. drug debate.

It's about the way our emotional and mental factors can affect our overall health (all other variables being consistent).

 

[friendly_jacek]

Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy

It's about the way our emotional and mental factors can affect our overall health (all other variables being consistent).


well, that part is actually well known and sort of self evident. oncologists knew for a long time that women with breast cancer benefit from group therapy more than some chemo and it's routinely offered to patients.

i skimmed the first chapter (free preview) and don't see anything revolutionary in the book. not sure how some reviewers claimed the book saved their lives.

 

[expat]

I have not read any of the book or reviews, but wonder if it questions the North American work ethic

'Work yourself to death, and buy lots of stuff'

I see a lot of people working huge hours, eating junk (because they don't have time to prepare real food) and then dyeing before retirement.

 

[Pop_Rivit]

Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy

"This book takes illness out of the hands of the drug companies and forces us to look at how we live our lives in relation to our health. It is revolutionary stuff."
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I fail to see the revelation. It's no surprise that people who take responsibility for their health and work toward healthy lives live longer. It just takes a little common sense and a bit of self discipline.

Everyone has stress in their lives. There are ways to deal with it and reduce it. But stress is just one of many pieces of the good health jigsaw puzzle.

 

[Lolvoguy]

Originally Posted By: expat
I have not read any of the book or reviews, but wonder if it questions the North American work ethic

'Work yourself to death, and buy lots of stuff'

I see a lot of people working huge hours, eating junk (because they don't have time to prepare real food) and then dyeing before retirement.


Yeah, seems to becoming more common with younger generations trying to buy into this lifestyle earlier and earlier in life.

Sad