What oil would you use?

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Older kubota tractor 2005/2006. See the specs in the owners manual in the attachment.

Seems those API ratings are obsolete and have been replaced/upgraded.

I live in TN where the weather is pretty mild. We rarely have a night below 15-20f in the winter.

Thoughts on what weight and such to run.
 

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no oil consumption

Lowest temp used would be 20f with the majority (99%) of it being over 50f.
 
I have two Kubota's from the mid-2000s. I run dino Rotella 10w-30. I've also used 15w-40. I've seen no difference whatsoeve in the wear results between those two. I've seen plenty of UOA from other oil brands that also do just as well. I can tell you with the utmost certainty that just about any Kubota or Yanmar engine simply does not care what brand/grade oil you use.

Just pick something that's on the shelf as a HDEO in your closest supply store. In TN, you'll be fine with a conventional oil; no need for a syn.
 
Their manuals are very confusing especially for someone who doesn’t know much about diesel oil. They’d be at the store forever looking for a CE oil. Lol.

Out of warranty, I’d run a 5w40 and change it bi yearly depending on your usage. I think it’s a 200 hr oci?
 
Most vehicles on the road today don’t need a synthetic either, yet they come with it from the factory.

If it was my tractor, I’d run a 5w40.
I'd ask you to back up that claim. Most vehicles "come with" syn from the factory? Nah - that's way off. Some do, but not most. And what the heck does that have to do with the OPs question?

He's in TN, and he's got a Kubota. The Kubota (and other Japanese brands) diesel engines are notoriously robust and don't need anything special. The temps will never get absurd there. As I said, I have two Kubota's from the 2000's and have sucessfully run dino 10w-30 HDEO for years, with excellent UOA results.

Syns? Way to overthink it.
 
I'd ask you to back up that claim. Most vehicles "come with" syn from the factory? Nah - that's way off. Some do, but not most. And what the heck does that have to do with the OPs question?

He's in TN, and he's got a Kubota. The Kubota (and other Japanese brands) diesel engines are notoriously robust and don't need anything special. The temps will never get absurd there. As I said, I have two Kubota's from the 2000's and have sucessfully run dino 10w-30 HDEO for years, with excellent UOA results.

Syns? Way to overthink it.
It’s no secret many vehicles require a 0w20. Also, there’s more benefits to synthetic oil than just cold flow.

“I know best because Ive had a Kubota for 20 years.” Whatever buddy.

OP, yes your tractor will run on anything and can take neglect and abuse. Disregard the outdated oil specs in the owners manual. You’ll get accused of “overthinking it.”
 
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Most of those same vehicles you refer to also spec 5w-30 in other countries, so .... you logic is somewhat flawed. That recommendation of syns is based on a desire to meet an EPA requirement in North America, and isn't based on what's "needed" by the engine by any means. Syns are not being recommended for cars today because it's "better" for the engine; those recommendations are because they are attempting to meet both a fuel economy requirement, and to a lessor degree also work towards longer OCIs in an attempt to become more eco-friendly (fewer oil changes).

So you're saying the OP should base his lube selection on today's economy and ecology concepts for cars, and then apply that to a tractor from nearly two decades ago?

Here's the way I see the topic, using logic rather than emotion as a driver for decisions:
1) I agree that using a syn (5w-40) won't hurt the tractor engine at all
2) using that same syn (5w-40) isn't oging to help it at all, either
3) Kubota engines are incredibly robust and are not known for needing syns to ward off problems, because generally there are not any problems to be concerned with in the first place
4) syn oils have an advantage at cold weather starts; but I mean uber-stupid cold temps, like those below zero deg F. This is because they aide in less parasitic draw during the pumpability of during starts. This ambient temp issue is NOT an problem in TN where the OP is at, so it's a "benefit" he will NEVER actually capitalize on. If one believes a thinner oil is needed for cold starts, just use a 10w-30 instead of a 15w-40.
5) syn oils (group IV and V) are a good consideration if one is going to extend OCIs out past the recommended duration; there's no mention by the OP he wants to do that
6) there is plenty of UOA proof that in "normal" OCIs, syns don't reduce any wear trends over the conventional oil choices; none whatsoever

So, maybe, actually you're "underthinking" this.

There is one thing the syn lube will be better at in the OPs situation ... wasting his money for no tangible benefit.
If that's the goal, then by all means keep banging that "always use syns" drum.
 
Older kubota tractor 2005/2006. See the specs in the owners manual in the attachment.

Seems those API ratings are obsolete and have been replaced/upgraded.

I live in TN where the weather is pretty mild. We rarely have a night below 15-20f in the winter.

Thoughts on what weight and such to run.

OP, looking at your manual it seems like any HDEO 10W30 or 10W40 will meet your needs. That said I think you could use HDEO 5W40 without worry. Synthetic or conventional is up to you. FWIW I used Mobil Delvac 1300 15W40 in my Cummins year round here in Iowa. I don't drive it if the daytime high is below 0F. I have had good results with this oil and UOA's. After several years of Mobil I will be using Mytsik JT8 15W40 for a while because of an excellent sale.

On a side note, most engines out last the rest of the unit. Besides I've not seen many engine failures that can point to the engine oil used as the source of the problem. Keep it full, change it on some regular basis and motor on. In the end you need to do what makes you sleep at night,

just my $0.02
 
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Virtually any decent 5W-30, 10W-30, 5W-40 or 10W-40.
That said I wouldn't run conventional in anything today.
Many semi-synthetic oils are fairly cheap.
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