I just bought some .45 Golden Saber.
Al said:Plain 'ol .45 Auto 230 FMJ Winchester white box. Anyone who can survive a couple of those has earned the right to do me in.
STUDIES HAVE PROVEN THIS TO BE ABSOLUTELY TRUE (vs. smaller bore calibers) AND IT FEEDS BEST IN 1911's! Our boys in the Service use round nose 9 mm...
I know some guys that put a HP in the pipe and then round nose in the mag. Usually it's the first shot that saves your day and you are less likely to have feeding issues.
A 230 gr round-nose also called ball ammo will usually sell at this time for $20.00/50 and will do as well or better than many HP's out there in lesser calibers especially through heavy clothing. 230 ball does not over-penetrate like 9 mm and .40 round-nose can and will.
Having said that Winchester's new Ranger PDX1 Bonded Ammo expands to .73" and is razor sharp and always retains all of it's weight. BUT at this time it's about $70.00/50 and very hard to get.
Gold Dot HP's feed best in all guns especially the 1911's if feeding is an issue for you.
"Designer" hollowpoints are so over-rated. Plain Winchester White-Box Hollowpoints for $ 30.00/50 are just as good also.
You mind posting these "studies"??
(A lot of what you wrote is wrong. But whatever. It's up to people to do there homework.
I am saying this to clarify a bit more:
-.45 ACP Round nose is more effective than 9 mm or .40 S&W round nose all things being equal.... period.
-Autopsy reports often show that HP's do not expand...may bust to pieces after hitting bone and limit penetration to vital organs. A .45 round nose won't do that and penetration is always good..over-penetration not the issue as it is with 9 mm and .40 S&W round nose. +1 for .45 ACP ball ammo.
-If you are lucky.. in real life.. a 9mm Hp expands to .40" or .40 S&W HP will reach expansion of around .45". A .45 ACP can and will reach .47" which is nearly a 50 caliber. Wound channel size is critical.
(From my many years of experience in a Major Trauma Center ER in Detroit... this is typical real life stuff...the fancy tests in denim covered gelatin has been proven to be mis-leading in real life LE situations over and over. Gotta add in a sternum/rib cage/muscle/tendons etc and these are all point blank straight on shots to the test material. Remember the FBI said they were done testing (9mm bad to the 10 mm good) (officers lost with 10 mm)...then the .40 S&W ( still not happy) FBI SWAT all have .45 ACP's. I am not out here alone. US Elite forces use .45 ACP.)
Did some additional research on several forums:
I stand corrected on what the consensus of the best feeding ammo in a 1911 HP is and that is Golden Sabre' and they now offer this in bonded as well.
Bonded ammo "levels the playing fieled" and Winchester PDX! Ranger LE and Golden Sabre' Bonded gives outstandin results in all calibers. It's new and won't bust to pieces and has the "potential" to expand better than previous non-bonded ammo.
Bonded Golden Sabre' 230 +P looks like a winner.
...just my .02
LLet me know your feelings...