Weize AGM Group 48/H6/L3 battery $118.90

[f355spider]

My rule of thumb is replace battery as a maintenance item shortly after warranty expires so every 3-4 years. It is simply not worth the hassle of being caught with a no start due to a dead battery especially if one requires a tow which can cost 50-75 % of a new battery.

Invest $30 in a battery tester and greatly improve your chances of catching a battery before failure. I started testing at least a couple times per year, or whenever I conduct an oil change. I've been doing this for 20 years...so far so good.

I have gotten 14 years out of the battery in my Tundra using this method. All my BMW batteries are 6 plus years old and still test fine. Definitely has saved me a ton of money over changing every 3 to 4 years.

 

[Carmudgeon]

Sorry i was looking at a $139 everstart Maxx flooded.
Weize 24F is 169.99 on Amazon.
Everstart AGM is 179.99

I have a couple weize AGM in scooter/snowmobile and they seem ok.
Not as good as a Deka powersports battery but 1/2 the cost.

Buying direct, with the OP's discount code, a 24F = $124, no tax, no core, free shipping. $180 for Everstart Platinum in my spot check.

Hey guys, I just looked on Consumer Reports and they tested a Weize battery in Group 94R H7 and it was mediocre. Where a top battery will rate 90 points or above, it was rated at 45 points. It did great in reserve capacity tests, and very good in CCA, but did poorly in their LIFE tests:

Life: Life test measures how a battery endures repeated charge-and-discharge cycles at hot-climate engine-compartment temperatures. The more cycles endured while maintaining a higher voltage, the higher the score.

Interesting, but most all the commonly used AGMs did poorly in that size including Die Hard, Duralast and Interstate.
The only standout was Odyssey at 94 points. The second place AAA AGM Premium was only 68 pts.

Material quality is where I would expect one of these to fall short, or be commensurate with the price. Battery production is highly automated, so it's not the Chinese factory worker making $2/hr sewing your sweater together crookedly that is the concern. It would be the lapses from of the ones hired to program, calibrate, and maintain the production lines, the quality of the materials that come through the door to be made into finished products, and final QC where the shortcomings might eventually be manifested.

CR tests of H6 batteries in descending order:
Odyssey AGM 91
Optima yellow top (not spiral, its a plate AGM) 90
Interstate MTX agm 86
Exide Marathon Max 85
Interstate MT-7 84
Super Start Platinum 82
Champion H6-730CHP 80
X2 Power 79 (this was a surprise, in most sizes this is top rated)
Interstate MegaTron 78
Champion AGM 78

The MTZ/MT7 is a rebadged Odyssey, and lists for $420. The X2 sells for $390 at Batteries+.

Even the MTX, which appears to be your JCI/EP Average Joe Schmo consumer-grade battery, lists for $285.

The Exide can be had from RockAuto for $170+core. Champions, or at least the ones I've seen when Pep Boys was a parts store, were sourced from JCI (and the Bosch from Exide), another average battery with average pricing.

For everyday, typical daily driver applications, not located in the polar cap regions where a dead battery may be life or death, I'm not sure I'd see the value in paying $400 for a typical lead-acid car battery. It is, after all, still only a reservoir box of electrons.

I don't dislike CR as some do, and welcome the empirical testing they do. In my recollection, they've rated Interstates highly for a loooong time in their results.

However as a self-proclaimed truth-telling resource, I wonder if they've ever told their readers that Interstate is just a reseller/remarketer that adds a price premium to batteries from the same suppliers that can be had at better value from other retailers?

 

[f355spider]

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I don't dislike CR as some do, and welcome the empirical testing they do. In my recollection, they've rated Interstates highly for a loooong time in their results.

The thing I find valuable with CR testing of batteries, is that there is no one brand that is perfect in all sizes. Interstate is generally better than most, but rarely at the very top, or bottom for that matter. Odyssey and X2 are near the top, or the top in most sizes. There was one size where the X2 was at the bottom (Group 65), and in H6 it was very good, but not the best.

 

[Hootbro]

I bought a Weize H7 AGM battery for my Jeep Gladiator earlier this year and was happy with it. Came well packaged and out of the box tested to its rated capacity.

It comes with a 3 year warranty but I really do not know how that would exactly work out if one needs to make claim against it for a replacement? So that may be a potential issue if the need arises.

 

[D1dad]

I’m coming on 4 yrs in my 21 and my 18 Walmart max. I had a n almost 5 yr interstate go from fine to shot in a hotel parking lot so I’m proactive. I did buy an ancel tester and everything is testing at 85% plus. I just won’t put a fe hundred dollars over a major pita situation. But, I’m tight and don’t wanna spend money for something not needed.

 

[f355spider]

I bought a Weize H7 AGM battery for my Jeep Gladiator earlier this year and was happy with it. Came well packaged and out of the box tested to its rated capacity.

It comes with a 3 year warranty but I really do not know how that would exactly work out if one needs to make claim against it for a replacement? So that may be a potential issue if the need arises.

Their warranty process is not clear.
They have an online form you fill out and submit (upload a copy of receipt), but no explanation of the actual process.

https://www.weizeus.com/apps/product-registration?form=warranty

 

[Hootbro]

Their warranty process is not clear.
They have an online form you fill out and submit (upload a copy of receipt), but no explanation of the actual process.

https://www.weizeus.com/apps/product-registration?form=warranty

Reviews on Amazon were a mix bag for warranty. One claimed they had to pay to ship it back and other said everything was covered. Either way, they still had to wait for shipping of replacement.
Not a good option for anybody that cannot work around that.

 

[RitcheyRch]

Reviews on Amazon were a mix bag for warranty. One claimed they had to pay to ship it back and other said everything was covered. Either way, they still had to wait for shipping of replacement.
Not a good option for anybody that cannot work around that.

Which makes the option to get one a battery from Costco, Sam's Club or Walmart even better,

 

[Hootbro]

Which makes the option to get one a battery from Costco, Sam's Club or Walmart even better,

Agreed. If one is risk adverse, buy local. Probably been 25+ years since I had to warranty a non OEM vehicle battery so I have no problem rolling the dice on this Weize battery based on price. I think they are no better or worse than the ACDelco AGM's sold on Amazon that are also China made.

 

[f355spider]

I think they are no better or worse than the ACDelco AGM's sold on Amazon that are also China made.

Maybe...we really don't know if this company is the same maker as all the Clarios AGM retailers...AC Delco, Interstate, Walmart Maxx.
What is strange is the Clarios AGMs can come from more than just China. I have seen Korea, Mexico, Germany, USA and China. Seems to be kinda random, based on which size battery, and random shipments. Sometimes I see more than one country for the same size battery on the shelf at Costco or WalMart. I noticed on Amazon the AC Delco AGMs don't even specify a country of origin, but the reviews will sometimes mention it.

 

[Carmudgeon]

Well, count me as one who just took the bet, eyes wide open.

Will see how a $120 out-the-door Chinese AGM fares, and let you know. I've used more than a few flooded JCI-made batteries in this size, and they've served well. This will break that streak, but Costco soured their deal, and the jury is also still out on the Koreans on Walmart's shelf as well.

Autozone says they'll provide a $10 gift card in exchange for the core that doesn't need to be sent back, so it will really be a $110 battery of sorts.

 

[D1dad]

Nissan uses some sort of smart charging system that apparently makes using an agm battery worthless according to my tech who has 30 yrs experience, He advised me to just buy a flooded battery and motor on. Nissan uses EFB batteries which are crazy expensive and not exactly easy to find. I went to menards last night looking at the ac delcos they sell, the warranties are great, priced right but i tested 3 and they tested worse than what I have in my car currently. MFG dates were current so I passed. Ill probably just go with the walmart max batteries again.

 

[Hootbro]

Nissan uses some sort of smart charging system that apparently makes using an agm battery worthless according to my tech who has 30 yrs experience, He advised me to just buy a flooded battery and motor on. Nissan uses EFB batteries which are crazy expensive and not exactly easy to find. I went to menards last night looking at the ac delcos they sell, the warranties are great, priced right but i tested 3 and they tested worse than what I have in my car currently. MFG dates were current so I passed. Ill probably just go with the walmart max batteries again.

Your tech got it right. If your vehicle came OEM with a EFB, need to stick with that technology because they put it in there for a reason (usually for start/stop duty cycle). If it was a standard flood acid battery as OEM, probably could get away with a AGM upgrade with a battery system reset if applicable.

 

[D1dad]

Your tech got it right. If your vehicle came OEM with a EFB, need to stick with that technology because they put it in there for a reason (usually for start/stop duty cycle). If it was a standard flood acid battery as OEM, probably could get away with a AGM upgrade with a battery system reset if applicable.

My 21 and even the wifes new 24 came with the EFB batteries. So he suggested just rolling into walmart and grabbing a standard battery (everstart maxx) and slap it in. Is this correct?

 

[Hootbro]

My 21 and even the wifes new 24 came with the EFB batteries. So he suggested just rolling into walmart and grabbing a standard battery (everstart maxx) and slap it in. Is this correct?

I am not up on the Walmart Everstart batteries. I know just about all true EFB batteries are marked as such. If you do not see "EFB" on the label, I would not assume they are.

 

[D1dad]

The only place I found to buy an efb is autozone and it's near $250.

 

[Hootbro]

The only place I found to buy an efb is autozone and it's near $250.

Yeah, just because they are not AGM, does not make them any cheaper.

 

[D1dad]

I never realized our 18 rogue came with an efb and used a standard flooded battery (oops) 3 years ago and no harm no foul. I called nissan and they wanted $499 installed at the time so that was a NO. Apparently nissans smart charge system never fully charges an agm so it would be a waste using one. All the auto parts stores and search engines recommend AGM strangely.

 

[Carmudgeon]

EFBs were developed to accommodate the more demanding duty cycles of stop/start engines, at a lower cost (for OEMs, not consumers), compared to AGMs.

They've achieved critical mass elsewhere, but the market for them hasn't really developed here, and it's questionable whether it will. Exide seems to be the only one making and trying to market them here.

Most OEMs have chosen to skip straight to AGMs as OE for this market, and from a consumer standpoint, why pay an AGM-like price for a flooded battery when a AGM can provide similar, if not better performance, in the same cost ballpark?

Without a meaningful price advantage, and not enough demand, or competition, to drive them down, they face some hurdles.

And as a retailer, why sacrifice precious shelf space to little-known EFBs, when AGMs are already established as mainstream, suit the application, and considered the premium option?

 

[f355spider]

. This will break that streak, but Costco soured their deal, and the jury is also still out on the Koreans on Walmart's shelf as well.

I've got a year on a WalMart Maxx AGM made in Korea in 24F...so far so good.