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My whirlpool did the same thing. Try resetting it. Unplug it for five minutes. Plug it up and then open and close the lid like six times with in tens seconds. Sounds stupid but it fixes my when it acts up like that. It loses its place in the cycle.
 
On top of whitening (damaging fabric) , bleach will kill mold and cut through scrud.
But so does 60C or greater water.
Correct, but will hot water alone, without bleach, whiten clothes? If not, are there other options for getting whites white? Suggestions?
You probably run a good amount of warm to hot loads.

Too many cold loads without machine cleaning will result in buildup.
Yes, I NEVER run any cold cycles, always warm, except for towels and sheets. I suspect that using hot water for towels and sheets, helps to also keep the machine clean. There's an extra hot option too, but I worry that it will have a negative effect on fabrics. What are your thoughts?
 
I just bought a lower model GE top loader from PC Richards yesterday. It's noisier than the LG it replaced. It was at least decent rating on the Ben's Appliance YT.

Long story- House had an old Whirlpool to loader when we moved in. I had to fix a couple things but it worked decent. Finally crapped and wife wanted larger for comforters etc. Space limited to 27" wide in area (touching dryer and walls) and by a heavily used door so no FL where need to leave open for smells/mold. We got a Samsung top load It lasted about 3 years, top cracked where hinges attach. I called Samsung to see if any warranty left (nope). Lady was helpful and said there is a recall for the unbalanced load thing. If they fix that then it will have a 90 day or something warranty (hint ;)) and we can check the coverage for the cracked hinges. They came and fixed the load issue which gave the warranty. Called back and they said parts are not available to fix the lid so they can give me a new washer or full purchase price refund. I took the refund.

We bought an LG TL from Lowe's with 3 year warranty. 3 years 9 months later as best as I can tell Control board is dead. It's $300-$375 but backorder including on LG website and call to CS. For $400 they would fix it including all parts I had some questions on refund if not available etc. They said if the parts are discontinued/not available they would refund $280 of that. Parts on back order = available at some point but at least 1 month out when I spoke to service company. Wife will not wait that long and I don't want to wait that long and go to laundromats etc.

I tried to talk her into the SpeedQueen but tubs are not big enough for what she wants. Quite pricey also but I would be OK with that if it was larger.

PC Richards had labor day sale extended so we bought the lower model GE, has Dials on front, basic settings, good for my father-in-law. Start button has an actual button on board underneath that you feel click not just touch sensor. We added the 5 year warranty for $200 more.

Crazy add- we need a new mattress, mine is at least 18 years old and sagging on wife's side. She flips and spins a lot. They had a Sealy Hybrid Firm that my wife laid on for a while and felt very comfortable with all her back issues etc. Signs in store- "buy a mattress (with the labor day sale) and get $300 off any other purchase". So $1300 later I have new GE washer already installed by me and 5 loads through it. New mattress being delivered in about a week with 90 day sleep test thing. Price of mattress if it stays comfortable works out cheaper replacing every 6 years compared to my old one. We'll see what happens.
 
Correct, but will hot water alone, without bleach, whiten clothes? If not, are there other options for getting whites white? Suggestions?

Yes, I NEVER run any cold cycles, always warm, except for towels and sheets. I suspect that using hot water for towels and sheets, helps to also keep the machine clean. There's an extra hot option too, but I worry that it will have a negative effect on fabrics. What are your thoughts?

Yes. Hot water will whiten whites just with detergent.

You can use a powdered or liquid oxygen bleach like sodium percarbonate (oxyclean) if you want to boost it.

You are absolutely correct - not every material can handle the heat.
Bedding and wash cloths, and white towels are safe at 60C.
 
On simple front loaders I totally get that. They work.
I used them for the first 28 years of my life and was just fine.

Once you've lived with a super high performance FL machine it's hard to go back 100 years in performance to a top loader.

Top loaders feel like a 76 4 door Plymouth Fury with a 150HP 318 in it.
 
No FL machines in my house. We had them in the '50's and '60's and they went away for all the same complaints we have today.
Only reason they came back was because of makers needing to meet low water use mandates and it was the quickest tech. to meet those standards until they could design TL machines to meet the mandates.
That direct drive whirlpool washer shown in the citric acid video is the last of the truly tough, simple and easy to service washer.
The science of laundry is basic and simple, you flex fabrics in a cleaning solution so soils release from fabric. Scrub board or washing machine its all the same.
 
Ever notice you don't see scaled up top loaders in pro/ industrial laundry facilities?
 
In Italy, we used Ariel powdered detergent back in the 80's; little to no suds and the whitest whites. My mother brought the detergent to Canada when we shipped our belongings back, it was that good!

As an FYI, our FL washer was also a dryer, I still remember it was made by a company called Candy. Mom would still hang the clothes on the balcony because the drying part of the cycle "wasn't very good". I can only assume now, that it was probably a condensing unit similar to the Bosch units which are vent less, but ours was an all-in-one appliance.
I been using Nellie’s and it does a great job. It’s a Canadian company for your home country pride.

https://nelliesclean.com/collection...oeBgoHLcEW7fs-HlETzIIKDZqA6pUAtf6Mv6V4aJFMqXb
 
Ever notice you don't see scaled up top loaders in pro/ industrial laundry facilities?

You would need a ladder or steps for an industrial top loader. I don't think it would be very friendly to use.
 
You would need a ladder or steps for an industrial top loader. I don't think it would be very friendly to use.

A ladder, a lot more water, soap, and an externally heated source to get to 60C.

Between getting yanked left and right by whatever an agitator arm grabs, vs the weight of the clothes falling on one another the FL is far gentler on the textiles while cleaning better.

Guys talking about filling up the drum "to the top" need to use tons of soap to get a good concentration.
TL's with an agitator need the water to avoid destroying the clothes.

FLs dont need a lot of water or soap in the wash. Just enough to get the clothes slippery really.
If you look at a high end FL machine you wont even see water in the drum - and you dont need it either.

Where you need the water is in the rinse an FL's use plenty in this step and do an even better job because of how much soapy water they squeeze out in the interim spins.
 
A ladder, a lot more water, soap, and an externally heated source to get to 60C.

Between getting yanked left and right by whatever an agitator arm grabs, vs the weight of the clothes falling on one another the FL is far gentler on the textiles while cleaning better.

Guys talking about filling up the drum "to the top" need to use tons of soap to get a good concentration.
TL's with an agitator need the water to avoid destroying the clothes.

FLs dont need a lot of water or soap in the wash. Just enough to get the clothes slippery really.
If you look at a high end FL machine you wont even see water in the drum - and you dont need it either.

Where you need the water is in the rinse an FL's use plenty in this step and do an even better job because of how much soapy water they squeeze out in the interim spins.

Gotcha. I don't know much about the parts and operations of a washer/dryer so I just learned something new today :D
 
Bought a new Whirlpool clothes washer about 4 years ago and it's already having problems. Just won't complete a cycle. Evidently, I have to pull it out, take a cover off the back to get to the spec sheet, and read the error codes. Then go from there.

The previous machine lasted for decades. This POS is already giving problems. Is it even possible to purchase a quality appliance that is going to last these days? Any recommendations?

I will add that we only use the thing for 2 small loads a week. Truly aggravating.

Thanks.
Nibbana

The first question you should ask yourself is where you should buy the washer.

If you're shopping new the Best Buy outlets (not the regular stores) often sell washers for 30% to 70% off the retail price. I haven't needed to buy one there, but I did get a new stove, a new microwave, and a new dishwasher. Come to think of it, I did also get a new washer and dryer for my daughter. I stick to what Consumer Reports recommends.

If you're shopping used I would look at what govdeals, public surplus, and liquidation.com have available. I bought a 2012 Speed Queen washer and dryer set that cost me only $165 at a nearby university. It had been used in a stadium locker room for men's and women's basketball and volleyball. I estimate they likely have around 85% to 90% of their 10,000 cycles still left in them.

One other place you may want to consider is online estate sales. Estatesales.com and a few others feature large appliances and furniture that often get ignored by most bidders.

All the best.
 
I spent a day watching YT videos learning how to read Whirlpool error codes and troubleshoot. Narrowed the problem down to a bad actuator. The part that engages the drive motor to the basket and agitator. Has a small servo motor that moves a plastic arm. There are a lot of good/helpful videos out there. A bit of a learning curve but washing machines are a lot less complicated than cars. That I can say.

I can particularly recommend the excellent Parts Dr YT channel.

Bought the $50 chinese OE part on partsdr.com. Very easy to replace and appears to have solved the problem.

I guess Whirlpool is "made" in USA with chinese parts. Speed Queen is made in USA also. Not sure of the parts but has a 7 year warranty vs the 2 year on our Whirlpool. Also 3x the price.

Thanks for the recommendations.
One part that fails frequently is the lock mechanism on newer washing machines. If it can't lock in so many attempts or time it cancels the wash cycle. I saw this frequently working maintenance.
 
Ever notice you don't see scaled up top loaders in pro/ industrial laundry facilities?
Industrial and large FL laundromat machines have no suspension like residential machines. They are bolted down to the floor. Only FL as they are easiest to load / unload.
The first automatic washers introduced in the late '40's were bolt down machines. If you bought one Sears would come out and pour a concrete pad / block in your basement with the studs sticking up to bolt the washer to it. I worked on one in the mid '70's, main spin bearing were shot but it was still running. Repair was unsticking the float ball that controlled fill level. Water inlet valve in it was brass.
 
Industrial and large FL laundromat machines have no suspension like residential machines. They are bolted down to the floor. Only FL as they are easiest to load / unload.
The first automatic washers introduced in the late '40's were bolt down machines. If you bought one Sears would come out and pour a concrete pad / block in your basement with the studs sticking up to bolt the washer to it. I worked on one in the mid '70's, main spin bearing were shot but it was still running. Repair was unsticking the float ball that controlled fill level. Water inlet valve in it was brass.

This is referred to today as "soft" and "hard" mount.

Largest size soft mount FL Ive seen is a 25 LB Machine.
 
Any large capacity TOP LOADER is the better choice. Knobs over buttons even better. Just another board to go bad with all those buttons. Had fairly good luck with Maytag top loaders, but they have some noisy transmissions, and a lot of clackin when agitating clothes. It's a 6.0 cubic ft machine. Monster. Can handle Cal King bedding no problem. This is important. If the machine says use AFFRESH, use it. It dissolves minerals and mold built up in the machine. I ruined one machine by not using it. Costly mistake. Again, the bigger, the better. No front loaders. Too much mold buildup in the door seal. Stick with old school top loader with knobs.
 
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I would get one of these models, I think they last 30 years or so, but you may experience some whining sounds 🤣

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