CleanSump
Site Donor 2026
There's alway someone who just wants to nitpick and argue.You do realize many modern vehicles are brake by wire?
There's alway someone who just wants to nitpick and argue.You do realize many modern vehicles are brake by wire?
And weirdly enough for these edge cases there is still a brake pedal!And when you're electronic gizmo's don't do what they are supposed to do, where's your backup? Bang!
Yeah, and I'm the Avionics guy. No electronic and or processor controlled system is 100% reliable.
If the car stomping the brakes in front of you puts you into panic stop mode you are in fact following too closely. Also if the light is flipping and the car in front of you is running the light at that point, you are in fact running the light being behind it. I can't see a scenario where you don't run the red if you're not following too closely. Either I'm missing your point or I'm fully in the right to question your judgment.
Some of you have put on full display that you don't know how to drive or are unsafe drivers. I think you are all not realizing how aggressive full regen braking is. It is quite significant and if you're not tailgating the car in front of you, regen brings you down to a full stop pretty quickly off of the pedal completely. I suggest test driving a Tesla, trying it out, and then coming back to comment your findings after doing so.
Yes! I am surprised that I see as many as I do here. Maybe it's jsut that they stand out.I see them around here on occasion. I still like them. They were too rich for what they were I think.
I wonder if they will drop in price like a normal EV, or become like the original vanagons and become gold plated treasures.
I recall they were going for $15,000 over sticker for a while. That tempered the launch.Yes! I am surprised that I see as many as I do here. Maybe it's jsut that they stand out.
I REALLY like them. However the price is a killer. With that said, it was only a month ago when for a good period of time they were in the range of $15,000 off sticker. I think that has something to do with them being around.
Some really nice color schemes too. So far from memory Ive seen baby blues and yellow with (guessing) white roofs.
Darn price, maybe in time, as batteries come down or darn I say gasoline version again? I know never will happen.
Takes two to tango?There's alway someone who just wants to nitpick and argue.
and depressed a lot of people who bought them, $30,000 swing if you are correctI recall they were going for $15,000 over sticker for a while. That tempered the launch.
Development of this vehicle began years ago when everyone was afraid of a rapid transition to EVs. That's actually happening in other countries, with the U.S. being the laggard. But VW didn't know that at the time. They've been showing concepts of a revived minibus for over a decade and the current ID.buzz iteration came out in 2017. The vehicle underwent numerous development delays because a three-seater was developed specifically for the U.S. market. This resulted in additional development costs. On top of the delays, it missed out on the 7,500 credit and got hit with import tariffs. Given the current state of the U.S. economy, I don't think there's anyway this vehicle would have been a sales success, regardless of the powertrain. Low interest rates and high pent-up demand for vehicles post pandemic has abated, and now consumers are just stretched thin from increased prices for...everything.This is why I think VW missed the boat here with the ID Buzz by offering it in EV only right now. I thinks the sales numbers would have been drastically different had they done an ICE or even a hybrid alongside the electric only. Then, if some of the battery and motor changes come to fruition, ala @dbias post #86, and costs come down, range goes up etc., you might see those that purchased the more conventional powertrain bus trade up/over to the EV. And be happy with it all over again. I'd get one.
We live in very different areas. Traffic doesn't move like that here. I moved away from that rat race for a reason.Personally, I'm often the guy clearly annoying a non-negligible chunk of the driving population by leaving a couple seconds of space between myself and the vehicle ahead. It's actually in an interesting experiment to leave more than a couple car lengths in traffic - people are conditioned to see that space and assume your lane is moving more freely. They'll make an aggressive lane change, then sit there for a few seconds before realizing their lane was actually moving faster.
Take a moment to observe traffic in most higher-density areas. You'll be absolutely shocked to learn that the spaces between vehicles often don't constitute a safe following distance.
Regen braking isn't as aggressive as threshold braking. It could be in theory, but there would be a lot of coffee-filled cup holders out there.
It's closer to a $55,000 swing at the extremes.and depressed a lot of people who bought them, $30,000 swing if you are correct
I have been to lots of driving classes. I used to operate fleet vehicles at a prior employer.You need to take some driving classes. Everything I say is taught in every professional driving school. It’s sad you think you know better.
exactly, and I also watch for this.Almost all of the time, if there are lights for the crosswalk, they are counting down-zero generally indicates a yellow light most of the time. So there’s plenty of warning!
Who is stopping abruptly? You have no idea what covering your brake pedal means,I have been to lots of driving classes. I used to operate fleet vehicles at a prior employer.
It's sad I know better? No, practical knowledge tells me that stopping abruptly at a yellow light will get you rear ended eventually. The professional driving courses I took had the attitude of "well that is the other driver's fault" for that and a number of other driving related topics.
No thanks, I'd prefer not to get hit from behind or otherwise, by driving more according to local custom and the expectations of the local driving community, rather than some pencil-**** instructor.
sure, I cover my brake.Who is stopping abruptly? You have no idea what covering your brake pedal means,
You can’t cover your brake with regen. You will slow down unnecessary. Covering your brake is not something you do when you expect something to happen. You do it every time because you never know what will happen, and you need to be prepared.sure, I cover my brake.
when I think I might need more braking force than regen will allow for....