Very Disappointed with my Pep Boys Visit

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Earlier tonight, I took my friend’s 2006 Prius to the Pep Boys Service Center in East San Jose, CA, for four new tires, a rebuild of the TPMS valve stems (one of them was leaking profusely, so I went ahead and requested that all four be rebuilt), an alignment and a routine oil change. I chose this location since the service writer I talked to on the phone was the most knowledgeable of all the Pep Boys locations I called. When I arrived, the service writer had already left for the day. However, he was nice enough to have already written up the work order. As I looked over the work order, I noticed two unusual service fees.

First, they wanted to charge $20 for a “Hybrid Vehicle Service Charge.” According to the work order, this charge covers the labor to disconnect the high-voltage system prior to servicing the vehicle and the labor to reconnect to the high-voltage system after the service. Second, there was a $10 fee for a “Proguard extended labor warranty.” There was not a description for this particular item.

I am not aware of a need to disable the high-voltage system in order to perform routine maintenance. Therefore, I asked the service manager for an explanation of the $20 fee. The service manager said that he did not want his technicians to be electrocuted, so it was the store’s policy to disable the high-voltage system prior to performing maintenance on hybrids, hence the additional charge. I explained to him that his technicians would not be in danger of electrocuting themselves while performing a routine oil change on this car, so his concern was unfounded. I further explained to him that as long as his technicians did not tamper with the orange-colored high-voltage cables, there was nothing to worry about.

The service manager did not have a rebuttal to offer, but simply restated that it was the store’s policy to charge the additional fee for all hybrids. At that point, he realized that I wasn’t going anywhere, so he decided to remove the $20 fee with one caveat—he will not be able to perform the oil change on the vehicle. I agreed, and at the same time, he removed the charge for the $10 extended labor warranty without any further explanation.

After the work order was approved, I walked out to the garage to watch the techs perform the tire work. It was at that point did I notice that the tech was not using all of the components included with the TPMS rebuild kit—the tech was only replacing the valve stem core and the rubber dust cap. (For those of you who are not familiar with a TPMS rebuild kit, the kit includes a new metal crush washer, rubber grommet/seal, metal valve stem and rubber dust cap.) I immediately stopped the tech and asked why he was not performing a complete TPMS rebuild as I had requested. He summoned his manager, the same one I had spoken to earlier, who then explained to me that they were afraid that if the sensor was unbolted from the wheel to replace the metal crush washer and the rubber grommet, the TPMS light will stay on and cannot be reset without the factory scan tool.

Again, I explained to the service manager that since his tech was not installing a new sensor, no scan tool would be necessary. In addition, I said that there is a TPMS reset button under dash, which was something that both the service manager and the tech were not aware of. The service manager relented and gave the tech permission to perform a complete TPMS rebuild with all components included with the kit. The manager did say to me that he could not be held responsible if the TPMS light stayed illuminated.

While the rest of the visit was a bit less confrontational, it was still disappointing. I requested that the tire pressure be set to 40F/38R, which the tech agreed to, but a check of the tire pressures prior to leaving the shop showed the tires to be inflated to 35 psi, 36 psi, 33 psi, 34 psi in the LF, RF, LR and RR positions, respectively. And even though the TPMS light was not illuminated, they did not push the TPMS reset button until I pointed it out.

In addition, the two techs who performed the alignment did not set up the rack properly as the initial readings obtained were absolutely erroneous. What was more troubling though, is that they did not use a steering wheel holder while making the adjustments (they instead had a tech hold the steering wheel
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) and no test drive was done after the alignment. Of course, they failed to perform a thorough inspection of the suspension prior to perform the alignment-- which is something that any decent shop should do. But after all this, perhaps I am asking too much?
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As you folks can sense, I am extremely disappointed with my visit to Pep Boys. The reason why I chose Pep Boys was because they had a fantastic price on the Cooper CS4 Touring tires and also because I have had great experiences with their stores in Sacramento. Needless to say, I was very disappointed with this store and I suggest that other BITOGers carefully review their work order and keep an eye on their vehicle if they choose to use this particular Pep Boys location.
 
Wow, I would be very angry too.

Back in 2004 I took my now deceased pontiac sunbird in for a SMOG. I let them do the tune up and I had my GF pick me up. I got a call from them that they set my car on fire. I came in and they charged me full price.

I asked for the keys they refused I pulled a extra set of keys out of my pocket cussed a storm at the manager and proceeded to my car. I was about ready to drive off and he said "We cleaned the car up well and replac.." I shut him up there turned the AC to full and showed him the amount of ashes that blew out. I further opened the hood and demanded that: not only I not pay for any service since they're techs were so incompetent to set my car on fire during a routine tune up. That he pay for a detail and replace every rubber hose under the hood.

I never step foot in a pep boys since.
 
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PepBoys is the worst place you could ever take your car to for repair. They pay nothing and as such get the worst techs on the face of the earth.
 
That is a great write up but it would do a lot more good being sent to PepBoys HQ than posted on an internet forum.
 
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
That is a great write up but it would do a lot more good being sent to PepBoys HQ than posted on an internet forum.


I agree! PepBoys needs to here more of these complaints. I have never heard of anyone having a good experience at PB's(not that there aren't satisfied customers), the complaints that I've heard are similar to TheCritic. Always something! Never fully satisfied! But, they're always bussy!
 
I bet they're still talking about you.
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With their attitude towards the TPMS I bet if they changed 7 spark plugs on a V8 they'd call that a tuneup.
 
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Your expectations are too high.


I have to agree. I'd just buy the Cs4s, and have them taken elsewhere.


Lucky I have a few mom and pop shops around here that carry Cooper tires....
 
Originally Posted By: dishdude
PepBoys is the worst place you could ever take your car to for repair. They pay nothing and as such get the worst techs on the face of the earth.


Thank you for that synopsis for the A.D.D afflicted BITOG'rs. 8)
 
OMG!
The incompetence out there is just astonishing.
There is no better argument for doing your own work.
Also, there is no better reason for finding a good indie for work you either can't or choose not to do yourself.
An indie's reputation is his livelihood.
 
Problems happen to me wherever I go so I do nearly all my work myself.

Example of said problem. Purchased a new car in 99. Took it to a small mechanic specializing in oil changes. Well, they set the oil gun to 5 qts put it in the oil fill and started doing someting else while it filled. The gun fell out of the oil fill and started shooting oil all over the engine and windshield. After about 30 minute cleanup they finished the oil changed and decided to start the car on the lift in order to recheck oil level and adjust. Well, morons this time start the car and let the clutch out on the drive on lift. Car lurches forward and slams the emergency stops at the end of the lift.

I could probably tell about 5 different stories mostly from warranty work that were all nightmares. All from chevy/gm dealerships.
 
Very, very simple solution to this problem, don't go to Pepboys. Not really rocket science. In fact I have found this to be the case with just about every chain auto repair shop. This is why I learned long ago to go to private owned shops, if they get much bad mouthing their gone. A chain still has the parent companies money to live off of.

Course I see why one would like to take advantage of the good deal they offered.
 
in 2004 i got 4 new tires on an izusu rodeo with aluminum rims at pep boys. they scratched the rims all up mountng the tires twice! they had to mount them twice because: they mounted the raised white letters on the wrong side the first time! i have never been back for service. next tires i needed i went to a local tire store and got a much better job!

but i still do buy their oil change deals and diy it! mike
 
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Originally Posted By: Pablo
Your expectations are too high.


I agree. never take your vehicle to Pepgirls.
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I am not surprised by the horror storys I read on these types of shops. But what does surprise me is that you'd even consider using a PEP Boys for any services. You get what you pay for and Pep Boys sure doesn't employ top notch mechanics. I don't trust dealers so you know Pep Boys and those chain joints are even futher down the chain.
 
I wonder if it's a company policy to disconnect the electrics whenever a hybrid comes in for service regardless of whats being fixed.

The magazines we get at my work talk like you can be zapped by just walking past a hybrid so it's no wonder they disconnect the thing before starting any work on it.

PB would not be my 1st choice for repairs either. But in their defense I have 2 very knowlegable friends that work there. I often call either when I need help.

In fact Im taking moms Sportage to one of them today to see if he can track down the short in the wiring.
 
It depends on the tech working on your car.

However, that really sucks. Another reason to DIY as much as possible, and use an independent shop when you can't DIY!
 
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