I am aware of the potential problems of chlorinated paraffins. You are right, most of them can and will break down into HCl. You are also right that "snake oils" (Militec-1, and
probably Armalube)take advantage of the initial good results, without engineering for the long term effects of the break down. Militec is also pure additive designed to be put into a base oil, yet they sell it as a stand alone gun product. MPC does not advocate the use of MT10 as a stand alone product for
any application. Strictly as an additive.
I'll assume that you did not read the technical MT10
Paper (it's only 3 pages) on their web sight that I linked to. It explains that there is an acid scavenger built into the formula to alleviate the normal corrosion problems. Either that, or you are prepared to debunk it, which I would love to hear.
Anecdotal evidence is about all there is to research on the anti-corrosion properties of gun lubes. There are plenty of tests to look at on the web, but they are all "shade tree" non-standardized experiments. I have seen no extensive standardized tests conducted by recognized labs in this area. If you are aware of some, please let me know.
I for one have had very little problems with rusting on firearms no matter what I used, but you won't see Militec anywhere near them either. Might I ask what lube product you are using for your weapons??
I agree that many guns don't get to 200+F, but machine guns can. Also, a rifle cartridge can generate 50,000+psi of hot gas, not to mention the EP the bullet creates as it engages the rifling (@ thousands of RPM) and slides down the barrel. I would say that that is a pretty extreme environment.
Please clarify what you mean by "sloppy". According to what I found on the CAS #, it can be a multitude of different formulations, but they all fall under the same CAS. FP10 is also the only product that they give "near full" disclosure on. Other products have some info left out so it's not like MPC is altruistic.
Missing information is the norm on MSDS' as I have found. However, I have also found that a well documented MSDS is a sign of a company that is customer oriented, and believes in/supports their product. Militec and Armalube disclose NOTHING of their contents. Still other companies have NO MSDS at all, leaving the customer totally in the dark.
Anyway, more to the topic, I was hoping that Molakule would take a look at the papers and see what he thought. As from the past posts I have read, he has been quite willing to expound on various topics. It's also obvious that he knows what he is doing, and since he his a lubrication chemist/engineer/specialist/tribologist (whatever the proper term is) he would be qualified to at least give an educated opinion on the product. If he (or anyone else qualified) were to find a problem with the tribology/chemistry listed in the papers, it would be
most interesting to me.
Tempest
P.S. I had to make another account because I did not have my log in information here at my house.
I will ask the mods on Monday to delete this account.