Chlorinated paraffins... Again!

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The only link posted uses these as citations

REFERENCES:​

1. LePera, Maurice. (1998, August). Chlorine & Engine Oils: A Good Mix? Lubes ‘N’ Greases, pp. 16-20.

2. Rudnick, Leslie R. (2003). Lubricant Additives Chemistry and Applications. New York, New York: Marcel Dekker, Inc.

3. MIL-PRF-17331J. (2003, September 09). Retrieved from https://www.oildepot.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/prf17331j.pdf.

4. Dura Lube Products. (2008). Retrieved from https://www.duralube.com/Galleries/Small/DL booster sell sheet.pdf.

5. Motorkote Products. (2008). Retrieved from https://www.motorkote.com/Products.aspx.

6. Prolong Super Lubricants. (2010). Retrieved from http://www.prolong.com/A_ET.html.


None are actual scientific studies?

Again the question I'm asking is, have any tests been done on the products we know and scenarios we expect? The answer is no. I don't want an argument either way, I don't care about anybody's reputation, I'm asking for proof, evidence, something solid. Neither the manufacturers of the additives provide something that proves it works, and the naysayers provide anything that proves it doesn't. Logic dictates it should be incredibly easy to discredit these products based on all of the negative opinions so far.

Again, we know that CPs have been used as EP additives in numerous industries, and continue to do so successfully to this day, we know there are negative effects of these both in form of acid production and bioaccumulation in marine life.

So if the acid formation can be nullified via additional acidity buffers of whatever form, what then, are the negatives outside of environmental factors? As so far all research seems to suggest this is the major reason for reducing their availability.
 

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...Again the question I'm asking is, have any tests been done on the products we know and scenarios we expect? The answer is no. I don't want an argument either way, I don't care about anybody's reputation, I'm asking for proof, evidence, something solid. Neither the manufacturers of the additives provide something that proves it works, and the naysayers provide anything that proves it doesn't. Logic dictates it should be incredibly easy to discredit these products based on all of the negative opinions so far.
You're kidding, right? Previous answers show your logic is faulty and that Logic dictates the chemistry says no to your using CP's in ICE applications. It's odd you never answered any of our questions. Why is that?

Again, we know that CPs have been used as EP additives in numerous industries, and continue to do so
Immaterial. This has been answered previously. Metal working is a different application in which this chemistry is not suitable for ICE applications.

So if the acid formation can be nullified via additional acidity buffers of whatever form, what then, are the negatives outside of environmental factors? As so far all research seems to suggest this is the major reason for reducing their availability.
This has been previously answered as well.

Occasionally we get flashbacks asking the same question many years later in which the poster is hoping to get a positive answer this time around to support his confirmation bias.

The OP's questions have been answered numerous times. It is nonsense to keep a thread open in which the OP keeps asking the same questions but doesn't accept scientific evidence.

So this thread is closed.
 
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