It's doubtful that magic ingredient is a solvent.
Valvoline Restore and Protect skepticism
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From everything I read the only thing I picked up on specifically (via LSJ's visit to Valvoline Lab) was what Dr. England said in that they synthesized some new molecule. They mentioned a lab in Mumbai, India.
Valvoline Restore and Protect should be thought of as novel. It's not an existing technology or additive. It's proprietary to Valvoline.
An oil with the solvency greater than Valvoline Premium Blue Restore without the negative aspects that come with esters that can be ran continuously.
Whatever it is, it has a unique ability to breakdown ring carbon which is very tenacious.
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Dave G. from Redline told me a few times that the esters used in Red Line ran clean but wouldn't clean. I thought that was interesting. With so many esters though it makes sense. But initially I was surprised by that.
Yes, and they haven't patented the new molecule because that would put all the information out into view and start the 20 year countdown for other companies to have full use of it.
By keeping it unpatented, they are betting that other companies cannot replicate the molecule on their own - probably a decent assumption because all of their videos on Valvoline Restore and Protect seem to indicate they stumbled on it partially by chance. It's like the Coke formula: if you can keep it secret instead of patenting it, you can use it indefinitely. Same reason why they won't submit for a Dexos license.
"It's doubtful that magic ingredient is a solvent."
they are in there for something right? my feeling is a fast cleaner that even if evaporated will leave gunk in susupension held by the mid aniline point oil and OSP as a flim former.
they are in there for something right? my feeling is a fast cleaner that even if evaporated will leave gunk in susupension held by the mid aniline point oil and OSP as a flim former.
It might be novel, but I don't know how much better it is than other products (however you want to define better).
For example, I don't think Valvoline Restore & Protect has a solvency greater than Valvoline Premium Blue Restore. I would actually say that Valvoline Restore & Protect has significantly less solvency than Valvoline Premium Blue Restore. Valvoline recommends no more than *one* oil change interval with Premium Blue Restore, and *four or more* oil change intervals with Restore & Protect.
With regard to Premium Blue Restore, Valvoline says:
"This product should only be used for one complete drain interval. Due to the high solvency of Premium Blue Restore, this product can produce considerable sediment evacuation requiring close monitoring of oil filter particulate capacity. It may be necessary to replace oil filter before the next oil drain interval due to trapped sediment."
With regard to Restore & Protect, Valvoline says:
"Up to 100% piston deposit removal when used as directed for four or more consecutive oil changes. Based on adapted sequence IIIH testing."
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Yes I agree. Better is subjective. I would say better in that VRP can be used continuously and you don't apparently need a lot of the additive to make it work well. VPBR is 50-60% ester and is basically a one-time flush oil. Per Dr. Warholic the additive they are using in VRP is very small amount so it's hard to say if the quantity was the same. VRP is a continual use product with a much much lower treat rate of whatever it is. Curious what the aniline point is for VRP.
"For example, I don't think Valvoline Restore & Protect has a solvency greater than Valvoline Premium Blue Restore. I would actually say that Valvoline Restore & Protect has significantly less solvency than Valvoline Premium Blue Restor"
why would you say that with all a aniline point of 60 or so Valvoline Restore & Protect has very high solvency
why would you say that with all a aniline point of 60 or so Valvoline Restore & Protect has very high solvency